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#1 Tim Mitch

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:55 AM

Tool Tip gives the ability to directly link to Hebrew and Greek numbers listed in a Bible module, I am wondering if there is provision for linking to a word number in a lexicon other than Strong's?  I would like to create an Aramaic lexicon and have links in the Bible module that accesses the lexical data from the new lexicon.  Is this possible to do?

 

Also is there a way of having a hidden link to word numbers, i.e.. having the English word in the Bible module clickable as the link, but not actually show the word number next to the word?  I assume that this is not an automatic feature such as having "G1242" automatically made into a link by ToolTip, but is there a way of manually coding for this sort of thing?

 

 



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 10:12 AM

Tool Tip gives the ability to directly link to Hebrew and Greek numbers listed in a Bible module, I am wondering if there is provision for linking to a word number in a lexicon other than Strong's?  

The strong's coding system is what e-Sword recognizes  for popups

 

a bible and lexicon can be made with another numbering system but will not be able to use the features of e-Sword

 

if your just wanting to change the lexicon but still use the strong's numbering go to Options, strong's tooltip and change the lexicon (it must have strong's numbering to work as a popup)

 

  I would like to create an Aramaic lexicon and have links in the Bible module that accesses the lexical data from the new lexicon.  Is this possible to do?

If you are using a transliterated Aramaic and a lexicon with transliterated words it should work with a double click of the word (if you are using Aramaic fonts it most likely will not work as Greek and Hebrew do not search the lexicon)
edited in corect statement greek and hebrew do search in bibles but not in lexicons

Also is there a way of having a hidden link to word numbers, i.e.. having the English word in the Bible module clickable as the link, but not actually show the word number next to the word?  I assume that this is not an automatic feature such as having "G1242" automatically made into a link by ToolTip, but is there a way of manually coding for this sort of thing?

 

yes this is an automatic feature the English word is searchable by a double click

 

but the problem would be if there are more then one Aramaic definition for a word

 

as far as linking a specific word to a lexicon definition it can not be done within the word itself it needs the numbering system to 

 

case in point a word with the same spelling having two different definitions 

 

 

you cam make a bible using the strong s numbers but having Aramaic definitions that would popup but the lexicon would be only usable with the bible you created

 

 

 

 

 

forgive me I may have misunderstood some of your queastions


Edited by DSaw, 18 June 2014 - 05:56 PM.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 05:46 AM

Thanks for your reply DSaw, you were pretty close to what I was asking and answered the questions pretty well.  

 

One thing that occurred to me is if I was to create the dictionary with the word numbers as the index, such as entries listed under A12, A13, A14 etc. and then in the Bible module if I manually format the word numbers as links such as  A12 etc., then the user can click on the link and that will take them to the correct entry in the dictionary.  Is my reasoning correct here?  If so then is there a way to format all words of a particular format in ToolTip as links, or does it have to be done individually; which would be a very long task.

 

Alternatively if the user assigns the Aramaic dictionary module as the default dictionary, then even without manually formatting the word numbers as links, if the user clicks on the word numbers in the Bible module, the correct dictionary entry will be accessed. Is this also correct?  If so, this may be the best way out of the problem.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:44 AM

Hi

try this for this is how I would do it. Do about 3 samples entries to see if it will work.
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I redid my own lexicon so I can use different pop ups check out my study bible set out.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:48 AM

Another option is like the EW Bulinger cmt, dictionary
App 5 from the bible and cmt double click on it and it will pop up in the dictionary.

This is looking up words in the dictionary.
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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:50 AM

Patchwork kid, thanks for the tip, I will have to give that a try.



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:26 AM

Tim,

I use the English face of the US Keyboard Hebrew [Sil] from the Society of Biblical literature to represent the Hebrew and Aramaic letter-tokens.  E-sword does not treat them like misspelled words.  They are easily searchable and can be marked for entries in a dictionary.  With this  form I can search for exact word patterns and partial word patterns.  I made a left to right version out of these with the complete bible canon and one with Strong's numbers also. I am working on a right to left interlinear with the Hebrew Pattern, Keyboard Keys, and Strong's together.  And I am also working on an English "like" version Subordinated to the written Hebrew "grammar"  While I can search the pattern of any word and research their connections and secrets I have found that beginners have a difficult time making the connections as they are reluctant to memorize the Hebrew written patterns.  To me making the interlinear scriptures is for them, but for me that takes hours of cutting and pasting, word for word.  I tried numbers and putting a + between them but they did not search well. I have not tried word pattern sums for I surmise there would be too many matches.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:52 AM

I forgot to mention I make two exceptions to the keyboard representation.  The keyboard uses > for aluf and < for ayin these break up the searches so I substituted a for aluf and o for ayin.  most of their choices for keys are phonetic with a few exceptions v is for tet, x is for chet, w is for vav.

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