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[Johnf]

I have used E-sword on Windows, but now have a mac, and need to update my operating System so I can install E-swordX.  But the module I would like is a better more accurate Brown Driver and Briggs.  See that BDB Lexicon was changed to bring it in line with Baptist theology according to The Puritan Forum [I am not a Puritan, was researching something when I came across that info,]  I know Logos has a good complete BDB Lexicon, because some one showed me his, but the one in E-sword has been changed to bring it in line with some people's theology.  I do not necessarily agree with everything in BDB just as I found a few objectionable things in Thayer -- he was a Unitarian, but want BDB unchanged.  I have 2 copies of BDB in Paper and ink books, one with Strong's numbers, one being a 1905 first edition, and they are different.

 

 Look up the Hebrew word translated as "determined" in Daniel 9:24.  One man, Athol Tolhurst, looked this word up in 17 Hebrew Lexicons/Dictionaries.  Fifteen of these gave "Cut off" as the meaning as does the unchanged BDB.  But the E-sword version, done by these Baptist theologians changed its meaning.  

 

Changing its meaning might suit their PERSONAL theology better, but that is not the way to do it.

 

the two Hebrew Lexicons/Dictionaries that did not change its meaning were "The Pocket Hebrew dictionary" & "The Concise Hebrew Dictionary."  I have a copy of this first one that I purchased second hand cheap, and I looked up the other on the shelf of a Christian bookshop.  Both five just a one word definition "DETERMINED" the word used in the King James Version. 

 

Many Extrabiblical sources also use this Hebrew word that only appears once in the KJV Bible to mean "Cut OFF."  

 

Another word BDB has changed is AZAZEL [translated "Scapegoat"] in Leviticus 16:8 and later in Leviticus 16.  See BDB originally gave a possible meaning of this as a Demon.  The 1771AD First Edition Encyclopaedia Britannica also defines this as meaning Devil, as did every Early Church Father prior to Bishop Cyril of Alexandria, died 444AD.  Cyril bought the Inquisition against those Pre-reformation Protestants who disagreed with him.      

 

I have 8 Hebrew Lexicons in paper and ink book form -- include Wigram's Hebrew Concordance.   

 

So please give us an unchanged BDB Hebrew Lexicon.  I cannot afford a copy of Logos to get the unchanged BDB.   

 

Thank you for you excellent Website.

[Johnf]

The New World Translation is the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible. It denies the deity of Jesus Christ. For general study or curiosity, you can read it elsewhere, as you noted. But I don't want to distribute a Bible with such serious problems for use in Bible study software. 

 

 

The New World Translation is the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible. It denies the deity of Jesus Christ. For general study or curiosity, you can read it elsewhere, as you noted. But I don't want to distribute a Bible with such serious problems for use in Bible study software. 

 

Firstly I am not a Jehovah's Witness.  I have written several tracts/Papers answering Christadelphians, which would also suit and answer Jehovah's Witnesses.  Oner of these is titled Old Testament Passages Saying Yahweh is Jesus in the Original Hebrew.

 

But I would love a New World Translation for E-sword, as a translation to compare their changes.  Buy the way, the JWs are on about their 5th revision of the NWT.  And some of their footnotes are useful from their Study Bible.  

 

For example if my Memory serves me correct their footnote to Ezekiel 9:6 tells us the "MARK" that the Angel puts in the Foreheads of the People that God will save is in Hebrew "The Tau" Ha Tau.  In PaleoHebrew the Hebrew Letter "Tau" is a  cross.  

[Johnf]

OH AND I THINK IF THE MASORET HEBREW WITH STRONG'S NUMBERS Was put in Sarly Semetic Font it would be great, if that worked in E-sword.  

 

that is the bottom font on this page http://www.ancient-h..._ahrcfonts.html

[Johnf]

Sorry got add to my wish list, but I would love the Hebrew New Testament with Strong's Numbers -- I do not know if their is one in existence.  Or a Hebrew New Testament Interlinear with Strong's numbers would be better.  

 

I read a little bit of Hebrew, not much, just odd words here and there.

[Johnf]

Oh, and something else.  In the early 1600s, the Douay Rheems Bible was reprinted by Protestants with a Protestant Commentary.  I have never seen one, but would love to see this.  May not still exist, but if it did would be great.

[Johnf]

I have used E-sword on Windows, but now have a mac, and need to update my operating System so I can install E-swordX.  But the module I would like is a better more accurate Brown Driver and Briggs.  See that BDB Lexicon was changed to bring it in line with Baptist theology according to The Puritan Forum [I am not a Puritan, was researching something when I came across that info,]  I know Logos has a good complete BDB Lexicon, because some one showed me his, but the one in E-sword has been changed to bring it in line with some people's theology.  I do not necessarily agree with everything in BDB just as I found a few objectionable things in Thayer -- he was a Unitarian, but want BDB unchanged.  I have 2 copies of BDB in Paper and ink books, one with Strong's numbers, one being a 1905 first edition, and they are different.

 

 Look up the Hebrew word translated as "determined" in Daniel 9:24.  One man, Athol Tolhurst, looked this word up in 17 Hebrew Lexicons/Dictionaries.  Fifteen of these gave "Cut off" as the meaning as does the unchanged BDB.  But the E-sword version, done by these Baptist theologians changed its meaning.  

 

Changing its meaning might suit their PERSONAL theology better, but that is not the way to do it.

 

the two Hebrew Lexicons/Dictionaries that did not change its meaning were "The Pocket Hebrew dictionary" & "The Concise Hebrew Dictionary."  I have a copy of this first one that I purchased second hand cheap, and I looked up the other on the shelf of a Christian bookshop.  Both five just a one word definition "DETERMINED" the word used in the King James Version. 

 

Many Extrabiblical sources also use this Hebrew word that only appears once in the KJV Bible to mean "Cut OFF."  

 

Another word BDB has changed is AZAZEL [translated "Scapegoat"] in Leviticus 16:8 and later in Leviticus 16.  See BDB originally gave a possible meaning of this as a Demon.  The 1771AD First Edition Encyclopaedia Britannica also defines this as meaning Devil, as did every Early Church Father prior to Bishop Cyril of Alexandria, died 444AD.  Cyril bought the Inquisition against those Pre-reformation Protestants who disagreed with him.      

 

I have 8 Hebrew Lexicons in paper and ink book form -- include Wigram's Hebrew Concordance.   

 

So please give us an unchanged BDB Hebrew Lexicon.  I cannot afford a copy of Logos to get the unchanged BDB.   

 

Thank you for you excellent Website.

 

 

I have used E-sword on Windows, but now have a mac, and need to update my operating System so I can install E-swordX.  But the module I would like is a better more accurate Brown Driver and Briggs.  See that BDB Lexicon was changed to bring it in line with Baptist theology according to The Puritan Forum [I am not a Puritan, was researching something when I came across that info,]  I know Logos has a good complete BDB Lexicon, because some one showed me his, but the one in E-sword has been changed to bring it in line with some people's theology.  I do not necessarily agree with everything in BDB just as I found a few objectionable things in Thayer -- he was a Unitarian, but want BDB unchanged.  I have 2 copies of BDB in Paper and ink books, one with Strong's numbers, one being a 1905 first edition, and they are different.

 

 Look up the Hebrew word translated as "determined" in Daniel 9:24.  One man, Athol Tolhurst, looked this word up in 17 Hebrew Lexicons/Dictionaries.  Fifteen of these gave "Cut off" as the meaning as does the unchanged BDB.  But the E-sword version, done by these Baptist theologians changed its meaning.  

 

Changing its meaning might suit their PERSONAL theology better, but that is not the way to do it.

 

the two Hebrew Lexicons/Dictionaries that did not change its meaning were "The Pocket Hebrew dictionary" & "The Concise Hebrew Dictionary."  I have a copy of this first one that I purchased second hand cheap, and I looked up the other on the shelf of a Christian bookshop.  Both five just a one word definition "DETERMINED" the word used in the King James Version. 

 

Many Extrabiblical sources also use this Hebrew word that only appears once in the KJV Bible to mean "Cut OFF."  

 

Another word BDB has changed is AZAZEL [translated "Scapegoat"] in Leviticus 16:8 and later in Leviticus 16.  See BDB originally gave a possible meaning of this as a Demon.  The 1771AD First Edition Encyclopaedia Britannica also defines this as meaning Devil, as did every Early Church Father prior to Bishop Cyril of Alexandria, died 444AD.  Cyril bought the Inquisition against those Pre-reformation Protestants who disagreed with him.      

 

I have 8 Hebrew Lexicons in paper and ink book form -- include Wigram's Hebrew Concordance.   

 

So please give us an unchanged BDB Hebrew Lexicon.  I cannot afford a copy of Logos to get the unchanged BDB.   

 

Thank you for you excellent Website.

 

 

By the way my comment on Baptist Theologians  I did not know you were Baptist when I stated that.  And what I said does not necessarily apply to every Baptist, just those who changed the BDB Lexicon,  I love Baptists, and have friends who are among the more radical Baptists We should only use the KJV type Baptist friends.  I am not as strict as them but promote thee KJV as the best translation, but not the only one.  I have 1560 Geneva Bible, etc.  and do look at modern Translations.

 

Anyway my Comment was not against sincere Baptists.  During the Reformation, if I lived back then I would probably have been a Anabaptist who disagreed with those that followed Munster. 

[Katoog]

See that BDB Lexicon was changed to bring it in line with Baptist theology according to The Puritan Forum

 

Anyway my Comment was not against sincere Baptists.  During the Reformation, if I lived back then I would probably have been a Anabaptist who disagreed with those that followed Munster. 

 

I found a few objectionable things in Thayer -- he was a Unitarian

 

 

 I have a copy of this first one that I purchased second hand cheap, and I looked up the other on the shelf of a Christian bookshop.  Both five just a one word definition "DETERMINED" the word used in the King James Version.

 

Another word BDB has changed is AZAZEL [translated "Scapegoat"] in Leviticus 16:8 and later in Leviticus 16.  See BDB originally gave a possible meaning of this as a Demon.  The 1771AD First Edition Encyclopaedia Britannica also defines this as meaning Devil, as did every Early Church Father prior to Bishop Cyril of Alexandria, died 444AD.  Cyril bought the Inquisition against those Pre-reformation Protestants who disagreed with him.

 

 

What is changed in the BDB Lexicon?

Is Thayer the same Thayer as Thomas Thayer (1812–1886)?

 

From Thayer Definition

G4151
πνεῦμα
pneuma
:
1) the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son
 

He is not a Unitarian.

From Strong

A primitive root; properly to cut off, that is, (figuratively) to decree: - determine.

 

 

 

The story about AZAZEL is nonsense as excuse for a misinterpretation..

Lev 16:8  And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.(KJV)

Lev 16:8 Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for Azazel.(RHB 3.6)

Lev 16:8 Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for JHVH, and the other lot for Azazel.(RHB 3.6 JHVH version)

 

http://jewishencyclo...les/2203-azazel

So Azazel is NOT Yhwh and Jesus is Yhwh therefore the scapegoat is not Jesus.

 

 

Please this is not the bible-interpretations board

http://www.biblesupp...nterpretations/

Edited by Katoog, 01 May 2015 - 02:09 AM.

[Katoog]

Sorry I miss-read.

Edited by Katoog, 01 May 2015 - 02:48 AM.

[tb24ster@hotmail.com]

hello Josh 

 

i need to know if mcclintock and strong is available for esword X and also is tense voice mood available.  is bdbkjv available also?

[Cam]

As of June 2015, these re the key modules to have if you like to look deeper into how the words get their root meanings:

ABP+ (Apostolic Polyglot Bible) A wordy title but a great companion to KJV+ because the ABP Has the OT in Greek (LXX).

AMP (Amplified Bible - I always recommend the purchase of this module) - 100% of the time.

JMNT (Jonathan Mitchell New Testament) Better than the Amplified - fixes how the many of the verbs in English should be rendered in all the mainstream translations but are not. Example: JMNT often adds adverbs like "habitually, continually".

AS  (Awful Scroll Bible) - love it for its concise descriptions and yet in an archaic way.

CLV (Concordant Literal Bible)

LITV (JP Greens Literal Version of the Bible)

 

On my wish list still...SAAS translation from the Orthodox Study Bible (LXX). That Bible is worth the $30 just for the notes in the Psalms!