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#21 BH.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

I have no axe to grind - ultimately is a personal preference. If I'm using a single commentary to study, I will have it open along with a Bible window, +/- other windows. If there is no comment, then the comment will be blank. If you use the T3/T4 "Fill In" Feature, it will have a link to the comment before and after the current comment. If there is no comment, then you only have the links. Instead of looking for a (!), you look at the text in the commentary window. If there is no comment, then will have "links". Something like this: Psa_51:5 <> Psa_51:12. So, if you are on Psalms 51:10, and there is no comment, the links will point forward to 51:12 and back to 51:5. You are not lost... And again, I don't care what the (!) is saying in this situation, because I see the actual text as it is in an open window next to the Bible window. If you are using multiple commentaries, then you may not want this "feature". A permanent solution as suggested by Josh would be nice...

Just one more note - the way T3/4 implements the navigation fill-ins, is to put all those records at the end of the database. Thus, if you are on a comment, and click the forward and backward comment buttons, you will go to the next or previous comments, not one of the navigation fill-ins.

#22 LarryG

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:34 PM

I believe this is a bug in e-Sword. I sometimes have a multi-second (3-5 seconds) delay while e-Sword "catches up"? It hesitates and I can't seem to figure out what causes it. 2 of our moderators have the same issue.


Thanks Josh. Dsaw contacted me and suggested to turn off system indexing. I have and it's improved a lot, but it still present to a minor degree.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:24 PM

But for commentaries that are sparse, I'd rather not know where the comments are than have the "!" all the time.


If the "!" is displayed, when there is no comment for the indicated book, chapter, or verse, then the commentary resources has been incorrectly created.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:58 AM

I am familiar with a similar programming issue in Esword. I am also well aqauinted with the delays that were mentioned in this thread. That would be a plus to get either of these two items addressed. I have no preference as to the solution as I use the feature of moving from one comment to the other very little.


add me to the list of those to whom this happens. Usually when I click on a specific verse


I believe this is a bug in e-Sword. I sometimes have a multi-second (3-5 seconds) delay while e-Sword "catches up"? It hesitates and I can't seem to figure out what causes it. 2 of our moderators have the same issue.


In an attempt to give a best guess for and answer, I'm prone to think that there maybe 3 possible causes. Mind you, this is a pretty rough guess, and I could be wrong.

The three possible causes could be as follows:
  • Insufficient RAM, or running out of memory
  • Overflow of Cached data
  • CPU not spitting the data out fast enough.
Software issues could also be involved
  • Database file issue
  • Too many resources for e-Sword to handle
These are really rough guesses which any of them could be the cause of the problem.

The best solution is to take about 25% of the resources off and see if any there is any improvement to the running of e-Sword. And if there is a marked improvement, then we have an idea of what needs to be done.

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#25 MJ_

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:21 PM

Thanks Josh. Dsaw contacted me and suggested to turn off system indexing. I have and it's improved a lot, but it still present to a minor degree.


I should know this, but I don't seem to have it stored away in my memory banks.. How is the system indexing turned off?

#26 LarryG

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:59 PM

I should know this, but I don't seem to have it stored away in my memory banks.. How is the system indexing turned off?


What I did was: http://lifehacker.co...d-up-windows-xp OR http://www.tomshardw...eak,2911-3.html

The problem still is not completely solved, but eSword responds much better. Back in the days of eSword 8.xx I was having the same sort of issues and emailed Rick. His suggestion was pare down some of my resources - at the time I was carrying a load of about 1500 top. modules. Again, that was a partial solution - but who carries a bookbag around with 1500 books?

Right now I have a load of less than 200 modules - just what I read or use on a daily basis. I've found that Library Manager v1.5 an excellent tool for getting rid of duplicates I didn't know I was running.

On this thread though...how will added demands upon the eSword program platform affect it's speed? Won't it slow it down even further?

Edited by LarryG, 25 June 2012 - 02:18 PM.


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:23 PM

What I did was: http://lifehacker.co...d-up-windows-xp OR http://www.tomshardw...eak,2911-3.html

The problem still is not completely solved, but eSword responds much better. Back in the days of eSword 8.xx I was having the same sort of issues and emailed Rick. His suggestion was pare down some of my resources - at the time I was carrying a load of about 1500 top. modules. Again, that was a partial solution - but who carries a bookbag around with 1500 books?

Right now I have a load of less than 200 modules - just what I read or use on a daily basis. I've found that Library Manager v1.5 an excellent tool for getting rid of duplicates I didn't know I was running.

On this thread though...how will added demands upon the eSword program platform affect it's speed? Won't it slow it down even further?


Honestly, other software programs have managed to include this type of functionality with no speed detriment. Generally speaking, If someone reaches the point where they cannot enhance an application further without constant fear of performance penalties, then it's time to look at coding practices and the language it's programmed in. I don't believe that's the case here, though.

#28 LarryG

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:32 PM

Honestly, other software programs have managed to include this type of functionality with no speed detriment. Generally speaking, If someone reaches the point where they cannot enhance an application further without constant fear of performance penalties, then it's time to look at coding practices and the language it's programmed in. I don't believe that's the case here, though.


Earlier you mentioned a possible 'bug' in the program. Perhaps if this was dealt with? I'm not the 'Lone Ranger' in my experiences, as we've both acknowledged.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 03:56 PM

Software issues could also be involved

  • Database file issue
  • Too many resources for e-Sword to handle

The more likely issue is that anti-malware is looking at each file.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 04:15 PM

The more likely issue is that anti-malware is looking at each file.

jonathon


AVG and Comodo? OK, let me make eSword an exemption and we'll see what happens. Thanks Jonathon.



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