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#1 Yishai

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 08:40 PM

I am putting together a KJV that has all pagan words replaced. I intend making it available at no cost. I would also like to:

  • Replace all Persons names with an accurate Hebraic transliteration eg: replace John with Yochanan (or Greek Transliteration where relevant)
  • Replace all Place names with an accurate Hebraic transliteration eg replace Egypt with Mitsrayim (or Greek Transliteration where relevant)

As such I was wondering if anyone has ever seen a table that would already have these that I can use as a basis rather than reinventing the wheel.

As to the Hebraic, I would ideally like both the modern Hebrew and the Biblical Hebrew so I can make a separate translation on each of the two respective basis.

The ultimate would be a spreadsheet or comma separated type file, but I will take whatever I can get as I cannot find anything close yet.

Ideally a format like:

KJV Word*           Greek(G)orHebrew(H)         Modern Hebrew Translit          Biblical Hebrew Translit*        Bibliical Hebrew          Hebrew Masoretic          Greek Translit         Greek          Stroongs#

(For now the two with * are the essential ones, but it would be great to have also the flexibility of the rest)

 

I know it is a long shot, but worth asking the question as it would save me a lot of working in getting this done.

FYI the reasons I want to use the KJV as a base are as follows:

  • KJV 1769 is still widely available so people have not had to 'relearn' memory scriptures (unlike a lot of versions that keep 'updating' to retain copyrights)
  • KJV is linked to Strongs so it is transparent for anyone to easily and quickly see any changes that I have made compared to underlying original language
  • It is based on the Majority Text
  • It has errors but all of the errors are widely documented (eventually I would like to but a remark in brackets next to each of these known errors)

I will also be placing a remark next to where I have made occasional specific changes, eg Col 2:16 replacing "handwriting of ordinances" with "certificates of debt [cheirographon, was handwriting] from breaking of ordinances" )

If you have any other thoughts on this project, I would also welcome them.

I am close to a Beta version but would like to add the changes of place and people names before I make it available for public input.

Thanks


Edited by motiv8d, 22 July 2015 - 08:43 PM.


#2 Rory Rodriquez

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 05:20 AM

actually the KJV is NOT based on the majority text but the textus receptus.



#3 Katoog

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 07:03 AM

I am putting together a KJV that has all pagan words replaced. I intend making it available at no cost. I would also like to:

  • Replace all Persons names with an accurate Hebraic transliteration eg: replace John with Yochanan (or Greek Transliteration where relevant)
  •  
  • Replace all Place names with an accurate Hebraic transliteration eg replace Egypt with Mitsrayim (or Greek Transliteration where relevant)

The ultimate would be a spreadsheet or comma separated type file, but I will take whatever I can get as I cannot find anything close yet.

Ideally a format like:

KJV Word*           Greek(G)orHebrew(H)         Modern Hebrew Translit          Biblical Hebrew Translit*        Bibliical Hebrew          Hebrew Masoretic          Greek Translit         Greek          Stroongs#

(For now the two with * are the essential ones, but it would be great to have also the flexibility of the rest)

 

I know it is a long shot, but worth asking the question as it would save me a lot of working in getting this done.

FYI the reasons I want to use the KJV as a base are as follows:

  • KJV 1769 is still widely available so people have not had to 'relearn' memory scriptures (unlike a lot of versions that keep 'updating' to retain copyrights)
  •  
  • KJV is linked to Strongs so it is transparent for anyone to easily and quickly see any changes that I have made compared to underlying original language
  •  
  • It is based on the Majority Text
  •  
  • It has errors but all of the errors are widely documented (eventually I would like to but a remark in brackets next to each of these known errors)
  •  

I will also be placing a remark next to where I have made occasional specific changes, eg Col 2:16 replacing "handwriting of ordinances" with "certificates of debt [cheirographon, was handwriting] from breaking of ordinances" )

If you have any other thoughts on this project, I would also welcome them.

I am close to a Beta version but would like to add the changes of place and people names before I make it available for public input.

Thanks

How to deal with the Roman names?

What is the difference between Hebrew(H) and Biblical Hebrew and Hebrew Masoretic (with the marks?) and why to add "Modern Hebrew" in a Bible study module?

Do you want Egypt untranslated as Mitsrayim in a Bible module or do want to make a Strong based dictionary or both?

http://www.biblesupp...h-kjv-analysis/

 

 

The KJV 1769 has still a Crown Copyright for the UK

Cambridge and Oxford has updated the Copyright status for the editions after 1900

 

What? Errors in the KJV?

While you don't know the differences between the TR versions and Majority Text versions and maybe also not the Critical Text editions?

The Texus Receptus 1894 Scrivener is the closed by the Greek source for the KJV.

 

Col 2:16 is Col 2:14

χειρογραφον τοις δογμασιν "handwriting of ordinances" or "hand-writing of decrees" is a literal translation while "certificates of debt" is an interpretation or based on Aramaic/Syrian sources (Not the Greek source of the KJV)

Aramaic/Syrian is not Hebrew. All the available Hebrew sources of  Col 2:14 are translations of Greek sources or the KJV.

And Aramaic/Syrian sources are NOT the Majority Text.

 

G1378
δόγμα
dogma
dog'-mah
From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

 

Tip: don't use the "Pagan words" list of HalleluYah Scriptures.

Bless, Holy, Son, Spirit, priest, prophet,.. are NOT Pagan words.


Edited by Katoog, 27 July 2015 - 05:25 AM.

Restored Holy Bible 17 and the Restored Textus Receptus

https://rhb.altervis...rg/homepage.htm


#4 Tj Higgins

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 07:57 AM

I am putting together a KJV that has all pagan words replaced. I intend making it available at no cost. I would also like to:

  • Replace all Persons names with an accurate Hebraic transliteration eg: replace John with Yochanan (or Greek Transliteration where relevant)
  •  
  • Replace all Place names with an accurate Hebraic transliteration eg replace Egypt with Mitsrayim (or Greek Transliteration where relevant)
  •  

As such I was wondering if anyone has ever seen a table that would already have these that I can use as a basis rather than reinventing the wheel.

As to the Hebraic, I would ideally like both the modern Hebrew and the Biblical Hebrew so I can make a separate translation on each of the two respective basis.

The ultimate would be a spreadsheet or comma separated type file, but I will take whatever I can get as I cannot find anything close yet.

Ideally a format like:

KJV Word*           Greek(G)orHebrew(H)         Modern Hebrew Translit          Biblical Hebrew Translit*        Bibliical Hebrew          Hebrew Masoretic          Greek Translit         Greek          Stroongs#

(For now the two with * are the essential ones, but it would be great to have also the flexibility of the rest)

 

I know it is a long shot, but worth asking the question as it would save me a lot of working in getting this done.

FYI the reasons I want to use the KJV as a base are as follows:

  • KJV 1769 is still widely available so people have not had to 'relearn' memory scriptures (unlike a lot of versions that keep 'updating' to retain copyrights)
  •  
  • KJV is linked to Strongs so it is transparent for anyone to easily and quickly see any changes that I have made compared to underlying original language
  •  
  • It is based on the Majority Text
  •  
  • It has errors but all of the errors are widely documented (eventually I would like to but a remark in brackets next to each of these known errors)
  •  

I will also be placing a remark next to where I have made occasional specific changes, eg Col 2:16 replacing "handwriting of ordinances" with "certificates of debt [cheirographon, was handwriting] from breaking of ordinances" )

If you have any other thoughts on this project, I would also welcome them.

I am close to a Beta version but would like to add the changes of place and people names before I make it available for public input.

Thanks

This should help with the names of people in Hebrew:

 

http://www.behindthe...biblical-hebrew

 

As for biblical places:

 

This is a list of biblical places found on Wikipedia when you click the name of each place you get a page with specific information for each including the name of the specific place in Hebrew, Greek or which ever native language actually applies

 

https://en.wikipedia...biblical_places

 

You can download Strongs # database spreadsheets here:

https://sites.google...rdatabasebyxls/


Edited by Tj Higgins, 23 July 2015 - 08:12 AM.





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