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#1 simonhull

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 10:29 AM

I had a question about how one would properly format translations that combine two or more verses together for readability sake.  A lot of newer translations (The Passion Translation, The Message, The Voice, etc.) will take a series of verses and combine them in order to express a thought that might span multiple verses.  This is displayed: Psalm 7:12-13 for instance.  I saw E-Sword does have The Message available as a downloadable module, so I feel like this is probably possible, but I'm not sure how exactly to express that in a custom module.

 

Thanks in advance!



#2 Katoog

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:01 PM

e-Sword lacks "paragraph mode" for now: the new version of e-Sword HD has "Bible Columns" as option but that is a less readable layout than the normal "verse per line format".

 

And the your "newer translations": (The Passion Translation, The Message, The Voice, etc.) are rather commentaries or paraphrases. The Message is the worst of it.

 

For the readability has e-Sword the support of line-breaks and even paragraphs.

Do you think that this is a lest readable layout than the layout of The Passion Translation, The Message or The Voice?

 

Psa 67:1  (To the chief Musician on Neginoth, Psalm or Song).

              GOD be merciful to us, and bless us;
             
and cause His Face to shine upon us. (Selah).
 

Psa 67:2  That Thy way may be known upon Earth,
              Thy Salvation among all nations. 

Psa 67:3  Let the people praise Thee, God;
              let all the people praise Thee. 

Psa 67:4  Let the nations be glad and sing for joy:
              for Thou shall judge the people righteously,
              and govern the nations upon Earth. (Selah).
 

Psa 67:5  Let the people praise Thee, GOD;
              let all the people praise Thee. 

Psa 67:6  Then shall the Earth yield her increase;
             
and GOD, even our own God, will bless us. 

Psa 67:7  GOD will bless us,
              and all the ends of the Earth shall fear Him.


Edited by Katoog, 08 June 2018 - 12:06 PM.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:08 PM

Thanks for the reply, I'm not so much interested in how to read one of these in E-Sword. I'm more curious about how you would adapt one of these translations (or paraphrases if you prefer) into a custom Bible module. 



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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:36 PM

Thanks for the reply, I'm not so much interested in how to read one of these in E-Sword. I'm more curious about how you would adapt one of these translations (or paraphrases if you prefer) into a custom Bible module. 

Even if I would: those three paraphrases are still copyrighted

 

The Passion Translation®. Copyright © 2017 by BroadStreet Publishing® Group, LLC.
Used by permission. All rights reserved.

No part of The Passion Translation may be reproduced in any form, except as noted below, without permission in writing from the publisher.

The text from The Passion Translation® New Testament with Psalms, Proverbs, and Song of Songs may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic, or audio), up to and inclusive of 250 verses or less, without written permission from the publisher, provided that the verses quoted do not amount to a complete book of the Bible, nor do verses quoted account for 20 percent or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted, and the verses are not being quoted in a commentary or other biblical reference work. When quoted, one of the following credit lines must appear on the copyright page of the work:

Scripture quotations marked TPT are from The Passion Translation®. Copyright © 2017 by BroadStreet Publishing® Group, LLC. Used by permission. All rights reserved. ThePassionTranslation.com.

All Scripture quotations are from The Passion Translation®. Copyright © 2017 by BroadStreet Publishing® Group, LLC. Used by permission. All rights reserved. ThePassionTranslation.com.

 

 

The Voice Bible Copyright © 2012 Thomas Nelson, Inc. The Voice™ translation © 2012 Ecclesia Bible Society All rights reserved.

The text from The Voice™ may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic or audio), up to and inclusive of 500 verses or less without written permission, providing the verses quoted do not amount to a complete book of the Bible, nor do verses quoted account for 25% or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted, and the verses are not being quoted in a commentary or other biblical reference work. This permission is contingent upon an appropriate copyright acknowledgment as follows:

 

 

The Message (MSG) Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson

 

The Message text may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic, or audio), up to and inclusive of five hundred (500) verses, without express written permission of the publisher, NavPress Publishing Group, providing the verses quoted do not amount to a complete book of the Bible and do not account for 25% or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted.


Edited by Katoog, 08 June 2018 - 12:37 PM.

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#5 Tj Higgins

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 01:13 PM

I had a question about how one would properly format translations that combine two or more verses together for readability sake.  A lot of newer translations (The Passion Translation, The Message, The Voice, etc.) will take a series of verses and combine them in order to express a thought that might span multiple verses.  This is displayed: Psalm 7:12-13 for instance.  I saw E-Sword does have The Message available as a downloadable module, so I feel like this is probably possible, but I'm not sure how exactly to express that in a custom module.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Combined verses are handled by separating the verse numbers with a comma such as Genesis 1:4 and 1:5 from The Living Bible module:
 

Gen 1:4  ,5 And God was pleased with it and divided the light from the darkness. He called the light "daytime," and the darkness "nighttime." Together they formed the first day. 





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