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#1 inspiralight

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:39 PM

Greetings,

Using the download Bible feature within eSword, I downloaded two versions of the Septuagint

lxx.bblx

and:

lxx+.bblx

 

They show up in my esword folder along with my other Bibles, so I restart eSword, but... I never see a tab for these Bibles!

If I try to download them again, the download page tells me they are already installed, which makes sense because I can see the .bblx files on my computer.

By the way, since I can't read Greek, I am hoping this bblx+ is an English translation of the Septuagint (which of course is the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament).

I'm also hoping it will work just like the standard, built-in KJV+ so I can search on English words, hover over those words with the mouse and see a tiny popup window displaying the Strongs number and definition for the Greek word used there (and even do a quick search for that Greek word). That would be ideal.

If the lxx+ doesn't provide these features then I should look for some other solution to search the Septuagint in English, then examine the Strong's definitions of the underlying Greek.

Since I'm new here I looked through all 21 pages of posts before posting this, and I didn't see any posts regarding this type of problem. Thank you in advance to anyone willing to help.

All the best,
inspiralight


Edited by inspiralight, 11 July 2013 - 12:40 PM.


#2 Tim Butterfield

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 02:30 PM

You only need the lxx.bblx. (The x at the end designates modules that work in e-sword 9.X or higher) it should show up in your Bible tabs as lxx+.  The + after the Bible name indicates that it has the Strong's numbers embedded (you can hover your mouse over the number and see the definition) Unfortunately the interliniar (translation follows Greek/Hebrew) Bible modules are few and far between, and the lxx isn't one of them.

 

You might consider changing your dictionary to this one

 

http://www.biblesupp...one-dictionary/

 

This TVM dictionary module combines the following works:
Brown-Driver-Briggs -> Hebrew word definitions
Thayer - Greek word definitions
Strong's definitions
KJC - King James Concordance
TVM: Strong - TVM info and explanations OT H8675-H8853 / NT G5625-G5944

 

The TVM allows you to see how the conjegation of the verbs effects the meanings (even more than in Engliush in some cases)

It works best with the KJV TMV Bible module as it is one of the to have the TMV numbers embedded.

 

You might also concider some of the Dictionary modules that cover Morphological Analysis Codes for use with the Greek New Testaments containing parsing or declension codes.
 

Here is an example of Strongs and the Morphology tags (the lxx+ has them...so I'll cite from it):

 

Mal 1:1  λημμαN-NSN λογουG3056 N-GSM κυριουG2962 N-GSM επιG1909 PREP τονG3588 T-ASM ισραηλG2474 N-PRI ενG1722 PREP χειριG5495 N-DSF αγγελουG32 N-GSM αυτουG846 D-GSM θεσθεG5087 V-AMD-2P δηG1161 PRT επιG1909 PREP ταςG3588 T-APF καρδιαςG2588 N-APF υμωνG4771 P-GP

 

You might have some luck finding lxx modules here:  http://www.foranansw...ord_Modules.htm

 

Hope this helps.

 


Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

"Defenders of the faith are inclined to be bitter until they learn to walk in the light of the Lord. When you have learned to walk in the light of the Lord, bitterness and contention are impossible." --Oswald Chambers, in Biblical Psychology from The Quotable Oswald Chambers.

 

 

 


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 03:07 PM

You could try the ABP+ It is available as download from within e-S.

 

Apostolic Bible Polyglot 

Copyright 1996 Charles Van der Pool. 
 
The Apostolic Bible Polyglot is a Greek-English Interlinear of the Greek Septuagint and New Testament coded to Strong's numbers. 

 

 

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 07:15 PM

For an English version of the Septuagint, you will need Charles Brenton's translation:

 

http://www.biblesupp...nt-1851bblxexe/


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Posted 27 July 2013 - 10:44 PM

You could try the ABP+ It is available as download from within e-S.

Jon

 

I tried it and I love it! Thank you.

Is there an ABP download for esword without the PLUS? I would really like to toggle back and forth between highly readable verses that aren't cluttered with strong's numbers, and then back to the plus version to zero in on particular words I might want to study. That's what I do with esword's built in KJV & KJV+

So far I haven't been able to find an ABP to download, only the ABP+

Thank you for suggesting it. I would have replied sooner, but for a while I had problems logging in. All the best,

James

P.S. I was ultimately able to look at the LXX in esword, but I don't like it. I want to see verses in English, with the option of seeing the underlying Greek word, but not using Greek letters. I can't read the Greek alphabet and don't have time to learn that. The LXX I downloaded shows me the verses written using the Greek alphabet. On the other hand, the ABP+ does exactly what I was looking for. If I could only supplement it with an ABP that has clean verses (no plus, no Strong's references) then I'll be set for studying the Septuagint. Thank you all!


Edited by inspiralight, 27 July 2013 - 10:54 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:51 AM

i cant see the tense , mood on the lxx with the new esword (10.2)



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:02 PM

i cant see the tense , mood on the lxx with the new esword (10.2)

Did you remember to change the Strong's tool tip lexicon back to the TMV dictionary?

It likely reset to default when you installed it.


Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

"Defenders of the faith are inclined to be bitter until they learn to walk in the light of the Lord. When you have learned to walk in the light of the Lord, bitterness and contention are impossible." --Oswald Chambers, in Biblical Psychology from The Quotable Oswald Chambers.

 

 

 




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