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#1 patchworkid

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 05:49 PM

Hi all,

As you know that I am working on my Study Bible set. I am putting the Hebrew names of God in my Bible.

I would like to know what y'all know about the True Names of God. I have checked out the RNKJV bible on this site.

example: Jesus is Yahushua; God is Elohim; LORD is Yahuwah or is it Yahuvah?
we know that there is no J in Hebrew alphabet. so Jahovah is wrong. one more thing what do you think about H1943 say?

thank you so I can get this part of the Bible sorted.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:41 PM

Personally, I believe that it is Yehovah (LORD) and Yeshua (Jesus).

But that's just me. :)

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:22 PM

Hi all,

As you know that I am working on my Study Bible set. I am putting the Hebrew names of God in my Bible.

I would like to know what y'all know about the True Names of God. I have checked out the RNKJV bible on this site.

example: Jesus is Yahushua; God is Elohim; LORD is Yahuwah or is it Yahuvah?
we know that there is no J in Hebrew alphabet. so Jahovah is wrong. one more thing what do you think about H1943 say?

thank you so I can get this part of the Bible sorted.
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Hi Niobe,
First off, just to clarify, there is no "w" sound in Hebrew. Your "W" is pronounced as a "V"

Now get on with a bit about the Divine Name.

In Hebrew, there are well over 2,000 (or is it 3,000) ways of pronouncing the Divine name, and I have no idea as to what they all are. Each, and I mean each of the pronunciations of the Divine Name has a variation of the meaning, and pronunciation can only be used in the context of that meaning. And I thought Hebrew was simple :D Nah, its not!

Yahweh (Pron: Yahveh), arguably is a proper pronunciation, however the overwhelming way of pronouncing it is Yehovah and its variants (different pronunciations). Also, using your example, Yahuvah, that is just one of the many variations pronouncing the Divine Name.

Its also important to note that in Hebrew it not one size fits all. In other words in the way a word is used to a particular meaning, and the same word with a different way of saying it to another particular meaning; then that is how it is to be used. You cannot use a particular pronunciation to make it fit to a totally different meaning. So you gotta be careful of that.

Hebrew grammar is quite complex, and if you don't understand the different Stems (of the way the word is used) used in Hebrew you can get yourself in a bit of trouble. Brown - Driver - Briggs' Hebrew Definitions is very useful to use as they show the different Stems of a word, and if you use it in conjunction with the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (TWOT) you shouldn't have too much of a difficulty to wade through all these variants.

I hope this is really helpful to you in your work.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:59 PM

Yep. One way of pronouncing YHVH is actually an insult or condemnation in Hebrew. Wish I could remember the website where I found the extensive information about the various pronunciations.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:11 PM

Just a couple of things you also need to know.

Do not consider letters we use, such as J, W, and others to be incorrect. These letters are used for our English translations. Its that when these were originally used in the transliteration of a word, they used to be pronounced as to their European counterparts, e.g., J as a Y, and etc. Its only that in our modern English we've become more lazy with our pronunciations of certain words.

Remember the W is pronounced as a V, and when it is used, its not incorrect in its usage.

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#6 APsit190

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

Yep. One way of pronouncing YHVH is actually an insult or condemnation in Hebrew. Wish I could remember the website where I found the extensive information about the various pronunciations.


Hi Brad,
I've got a pdf file by Yoseph (Joseph) Viel, The Complex Name of the Almighty, that I've downloaded from his website just on this thing. I'm gonna upload it here, and I think Niobe will find it very helpful in his work and study.

While I'm thinking about it, mate, you may as well download it too for yourself as I reckon its the very thing you're talking about. :D

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#7 Tim Butterfield

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:48 PM

At the risk of recommending the obvious have you looked into

The Names of God by Lambert Dolphin
( <http://ldolphin.org/asstbib.shtml> )
( e-Sword ™ topx by Raymond Mears With permission from Lambert Dolghin )

and/or

The Names of God Discovering God as He Desires to be Known
by Andrew Jukes

I am pretty sure that both modules are here on this site.
Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 11:43 PM

Hi all,

example: Jesus is Yahushua; God is Elohim; LORD is Yahuwah or is it Yahuvah?
we know that there is no J in Hebrew alphabet. so Jahovah is wrong.


J is the tenth letter and a consonant as in the Hebrew alphabet. The letter sounds as the Y of You in English and as the letter J in Dutch.
What translation use Yoseph and Yerusalem and Yesus?
The Hebrew name of Jesus is JaH-shua or Joshua in the English form and the meaning is JeHoVaH saves or Salvation.

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and Thou shall call His Name Jesus[JaH-shua, Joshua]:
for He shall save His people from their sins.

V or W? is it David or DaWid?

Elohim(GOD) is not the only of the many forms of El(God).

Click on the list.
http://www.hebrew4ch...mes_of_g-d.html

Edited by Katoog, 22 October 2012 - 04:39 AM.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:14 AM

hi all,

thank you for your reply

what do y'll think about this


H1943
הוה
hôvâh
ho-vaw'
Another form for H1942; ruin: - mischief.

the name in Hebrew hovah

thanks
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#10 Katoog

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:25 AM

The meaning of the Tetragrammaton is "He who is" and a ruin is "it who was". ;)

APsit190 uploaded today "Viel, Yoseph -The Complex Name of the Almighty.pdf"
http://www.biblesupport.com/e-sword-downloads/file/8436-viel-yoseph-the-complex-name-of-the-almightypdf/

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