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#21 pfpeller

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:39 AM

I second that. When I look back at posts like

http://e-sword-users...36#comment-6316

and

http://e-sword-users...36#comment-6313

it makes me thankful for this website all over again. 100 grand to run a website, 1,500 a month for operations, accountants... *chuckles* Ok.


One thing to keep in mind is that Josh probably has put in at least $100,000 worth of his personal labor to run this website and create content for it.

God provided someone with the skills/time/resources/willingness to make it happen. I am very thankful for this!

#22 Bradley S. Cobb

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:53 AM

He also took $100,000 of my time to teach me how to do regular expression searches (I charge a lot for my free time - lol).

Edited by Bradley S. Cobb, 16 June 2012 - 08:54 AM.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:07 AM

He also took $100,000 of my time to teach me how to do regular expression searches (I charge a lot for my free time - lol).


Yeah, he had to teach me how to do that too.. I am a slow learner sometimes.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:15 AM

Yeah me too. So grateful for his willingness to help others! :rolleyes:

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 04:26 PM

A couple of data points you are missing:

  • There are some major differences between what was being proposed, and what Josh is running


I hope so. :) Gary and Karen deserve all the recognition for the brilliant idea of starting an e-Sword repository and support site. But after their circumstances changed, I didn't care for the foundation and committee replacement ideas that were proposed. Foundations and committees inevitably lead to 10 people who "can't do" giving orders to 1 person who "can do". And then you get people wanting to vote on the color of a button, which makes for bureaucracy.

The advantage of our setup is we don't rely on donors for money, which in this economy would be a stressful way to survive (i.e. all organizations that rely on donations are really struggling). Of course, that works only if you have no overhead, no salaries, "no nuttin".

  • Technically,Current US Labour Laws prohibit the use of unpaid, or "volunteer" labour, except in very strictly defined circumstances. Non-profit organizations, including religious groups, are not necessarily exempt from these laws;

It's perfectly legal to have volunteers. The trouble arises when you expect employees to "volunteer". Problems can also arise when you use volunteer work for interns or others as a "lure" for permanent employment (an end run around minimum wage laws). But an organization is allowed to have volunteers--you need not pay them a salary or minimum wage--not if they're really volunteers.

Various guidelines distinguish between a real volunteer and an employee. The two biggest guidelines deal with the motivation of the volunteer (i.e. personal civic/hobby, humanitarian, charitable, religious, public service, political campaign, etc). Volunteer work in these categories is recognized as legitimate, non-economic motivations (usually much more so than money). The other major guideline is do you hire people to do the same or similar jobs and if so, are you using volunteer work as a carrot and stick for the promise of full-time employment (end run around minimum wage).

Fortunately, BibleSupport.com, churches, fire departments, political campaigns, libraries, hospitals, etc around America are not violating labor laws when we allow volunteers. The day we can't volunteer to support political candidates, religious ideas, or being a volunteer fire fighter is the day I don't want to live here anymore. :o

Speaking of volunteers. Bill Huff moderates downloads to remove duplicates, add descriptions, and tag files. James Rice makes Christ centered modules that are in demand and moderates the forums. Peter Pfpeller does everything from making modules to removing inappropriate content. Brent makes ToolTip. Raymond helps with complex technical solutions. Where would we be without you guys?? Thank you all...I should have named you in my original post. All of you do far more than you're credited with!

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 05:15 PM

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Fortunately, BibleSupport.com, churches, fire departments, political campaigns, libraries, hospitals, etc around America are not violating labor laws when we allow volunteers. The day we can't volunteer to support political candidates, religious ideas, or being a volunteer fire fighter is the day I don't want to live here anymore. :o

Speaking of volunteers. Bill Huff moderates downloads to remove duplicates, add descriptions, and tag files. James Rice makes Christ centered modules that are in demand and moderates the forums. Peter Pfpeller does everything from making modules to removing inappropriate content. Brent makes ToolTip. Raymond helps with complex technical solutions. Where would we be without you guys?? Thank you all...I should have named you in my original post. All of you do far more than you're credited with!

Josh


Year's ago I was in a little Oregon town called Klamath Falls. This little town of 40 thousand souls had something called a free Christian lending library, open to the general public. Thousands of resources were available for the asking, all ran by a lady who gave her time freely.

This is what I see eSword becoming, a world class resource library for Christian brothers and sisters around the world. The 'volunteers' here at BibleSupport are actually changing the way eSword is being used - not different, but better; like a river flowing in a wider/deeper channel. It is all free for the taking, for the spiritually hungry to find nourishment. It seems pretty obvious to me that God's hand is upon BibleSupport to bless His children around the world.</p>

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:14 PM

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Year's ago I was in a little Oregon town called Klamath Falls. This little town of 40 thousand souls had something called a free Christian lending library, open to the general public. Thousands of resources were available for the asking, all ran by a lady who gave her time freely.

This is what I see eSword becoming, a world class resource library for Christian brothers and sisters around the world. The 'volunteers' here at BibleSupport are actually changing the way eSword is being used - not different, but better; like a river flowing in a wider/deeper channel. It is all free for the taking, for the spiritually hungry to find nourishment. It seems pretty obvious to me that God's hand is upon BibleSupport to bless His children around the world.</p>


We are in an exttremely advantageous postion in relation to all the christians that have come before us. No other generation has had this much spiritual wealth. Most were lucky to have a bible translation, or even just a small portion of one. We have hundreds.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 04:22 AM

We are in an exttremely advantageous postion in relation to all the christians that have come before us. No other generation has had this much spiritual wealth. Most were lucky to have a bible translation, or even just a small portion of one. We have hundreds.


Yep, you ain't wrong there bro, and you never hit the nail more on the head as you have done now. Good little comment.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 09:26 AM

Hi Josh and other members,

This has been and is a great resource for those of us who love God's Word and use E-sword for our studies. I doubt that more than one day has passed in the last 4 years when I have not opened E-Sword for my continuing studies, finding the verses I'm searching for, perusing my topic notes, memory and other great features.

However, the assertion that God has not shown us what life is about believe is wrong

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 09:41 AM

This has been and is a great resource for those of us who love God's Word and use E-sword for our studies. I doubt that more than one day has passed in the last 4 years when I have not opened E-Sword for my continuing studies, finding the verses I'm searching for, perusing my topic notes, memory and other great features. Biblesupport is greatly improved over the old E-sword users which tended to be very slow, and ended up getting hit by a virus.

However, the assertion that God has not shown us what life is about, I believe is wrong. Who inspired Ecclesiastes? God did. Solomon told his story in the hopes of steering the young away from folly and sin, and I believe it still has that effect. This constitutes lifting up a mere man who is dust above God—is also what Satan attempted to do. He asserted that he could run God’s government of love better than God could.
Isa 14:12 How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how are you cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also on the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Furthermore, we have many, many recorded histories in the Old Testament of God’s dealings with a rebellious and sometimes faithful Israel as they encountered life, on life’s terms. There are literally thousands of examples. Some, are just people-oriented with God in the background. We see the sin and its ugly, tragic results—as in Ecclesiastes. Solomon’s story is only seen from a different perspective.
Consider:
1. Abigail saves her husband from certain death because he refused food to David and his men (1Sam. 25)
2. The story of David’s son Absalom (a type of Satan) as he deceived men of the kingdom to make him king over his father—and the terrible results of rebellion against the rightful king (1 Sam. 13).
3. The end of king Saul as he consults the future from the witch of Endor going against God’s expressed written Word. Saul is deceived by Satan, as a demon impersonates Samuel with bad news. Saul and his armor-bearer fall on their swords (1 Sam 28). Because of Saul’s sins and the demon that possessed him, God refused to answer Saul’s inquires.
4. Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu offered strange fire before the Lord while intoxicated and God instantly destroyed them both (Lev. 10).
The experiences and conclusions of Solomon are unique indeed, only because he was at first a godly king whom the Lord approved—then he went out in the world having the wealth to get anything and everything he wanted—then he finds that those things cannot bring lasting happiness. Only partaking of the joy of the Lord can fill the void that all persons are created with.




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