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#1 L0ckz0r

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 08:45 PM

How do I reference commentaries and dictionaries from e-Sword?

#2 Josh Bond

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 09:04 PM

Hey, welcome to BibleSupport...

What do you mean by "reference"?

#3 Tim Butterfield

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 06:13 AM

How do I reference commentaries and dictionaries from e-Sword?


If you mean how do you include information about commentary or dictionary when you use it as a reference you can generally find that information by opening the resource, clicking on the menu at the top of the e-sword screen (File Edit Format and so on) select Commentary or Dictionary or what ever then select information.

The material in the pop up often has citation information included.
"Scripture taken from the NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE®, Copyright © 1960,1962,1963,1968,1971,1972,1973,1975,1977,1995 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission."

If not, it at least has the name author and such of the work.

Examples:
Vincent's Word Studies Marvin R. Vincent, D.D.

BELIEVER'S BIBLE COMMENTARY WILLIAM MACDONALD
Edited by Arthur Farstad THOMAS NELSON PUBLISHERS
Nashville Copyright 1995, 1992, 1990, 1989 by William McDonald. All rights reserved.

Obviously some (generally the commercial modules) are more complete.

I highlight the pertinent info, hit control C (to copy) then paste it in as the reference citation. (sometimes editing is need to get it into a proper font, format, and so on)

That is how I do it...there might be a better more official way, if so I am certain that someone here will know it.

Since (in theory at least) the electronic version is the same as the print version I don't generally include that as part of the citation unless it is included in the pop up "PERMISSION TO QUOTE" section (if any).
Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

"Defenders of the faith are inclined to be bitter until they learn to walk in the light of the Lord. When you have learned to walk in the light of the Lord, bitterness and contention are impossible." --Oswald Chambers, in Biblical Psychology from The Quotable Oswald Chambers.

 

 

 


#4 jonathon

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 12:59 PM

Since (in theory at least) the electronic version is the same as the print version


As a general rule of thumb, there are textual differences between the e-sword edition, and the hard copy edition.

My suggestion is either verify with the hard copy, or state that the e-sword edition was used.

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#5 DoctorDaveT

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 02:05 PM

The purpose of footnoting (1) is to inform of your source; it is not to verify the accuracy of your source. Here is a quote from Kate Turabian: "Footnotes have four main uses: A/ to cite the authority for statements in text - specific facts or opinions as well as exact quotations; B/ to make cross-references; C/ to make incidental comments upon, to amplify or to qualify textual discussion - in short, to provide a place for material which the writer thinks worthwhile to include but which he feels would disrupt the flow of thought if introduced into the text; D/ to make acknowledgments." (2)

If I were teaching a college course, here is how I would require footnotes from e-Sword resources:
  • List the author & the module creator (if available)
  • List the title of the particular e-Sword resource ("Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible," or "Bridgeway Bible Dictionary," etc.
  • Enter as much of the "information" from the source as is included in e-Sword (go to "Commentary/Information..." or "Dictionary/Information..." etc. For .topx modules, look within the module itself for this information
  • Since the vast majority of e-Sword resource material has removed all page numbering, cite the location otherwise (by commentary - use Scripture reference; by dictionary - use entry)
  • Note the version of e-Sword being used (9.5.1, 8.0.6, 7.9.8, etc.)
IMPORTANT NOTE: Check with your teacher BEFORE you start research!


Here are a couple of examples of how I would format a footnote:

G. Campbell Morgan (module created by Pamela Marshall), The Acts of The Apostles. (Originally New York, Chicago, London and Edinburgh: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1924), cited in "Acts Chapter 2." e-Sword 9.0.3.

Albert Barnes, Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible. Referenced from Acts 2:2. e-Sword 9.5.1.
Ultimately, of course, you'll need to clear this with your teacher; but if you perhaps suggest this approach to a teacher, he/she may accept your suggestion. Your attitude and approach may make all of the difference, by the way (Prov 15:1)....



(1) This post was originally made by me at www.e-sword-users.org. I have made a few edits.

(2) Kate Turabian, A Manual for Writers of Term Papers, Theses, and Dissertations, 4th Edition. (Chicago and London: University of Chicago Press, 1937, 1955, 1967, 1973), p. 78.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 09:56 PM

Note the version of e-Sword being used (9.5.1, 8.0.6, 7.9.8, etc.)

Why the version of e-Sword?

I can understand the e-Sword Resource Format Specification Number.
And if the file contains a copyright table, that information.
(Part of the reason I was encouraging the use of the copyright table, was so that resources could be accurately referenced in papers.)

But e-Sword version number, I don't grok.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:51 AM

I came here looking for a shortcut key to copy references to my study notes.
Is there such a thing?

Thanks

#8 Josh Bond

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:39 AM

I came here looking for a shortcut key to copy references to my study notes.
Is there such a thing?

Thanks


Hi,

Welcome to the site. I don't think so, not that I can remember. The closest is when you select text with your mouse, right click and a small popup menu appears where you can select Paste Into Study Notes.

#9 leedevelops

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 05:01 PM

 

Hi,

Welcome to the site. I don't think so, not that I can remember. The closest is when you select text with your mouse, right click and a small popup menu appears where you can select Paste Into Study Notes.

This would be a very cool thing to have for college students. I'm doing a paper right now and my class is requiring me to use e-sword, which is awesome. I wish I would have known about e-sword this sooner, but I'm surprised that e-sword has not made something like this before? It seems like this would be an easy thing for whoever made e-sword, this program can do almost anything!!



#10 TheCSuiteGroup

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Posted 05 September 2020 - 10:06 AM

To save myself a headache for finding this information in the future, i came here to leave this resource:

 

 
In a nutshell:
 
 
MLA
Rawlinson, G., E. R. Conder, and W. Clarkson. eds. "Psalm 105:1 - 45." The Pulpit Commentary: Psalms (Vol. II). New York: Funk & Wagnalls, n.d. CD-ROM. Logos Bible Software. Ver. 3.0c. Librinox Digital Library System: n.p. 2000-2006.
 
 
APA
Psalm 105:1 - 45. (n.d.). In G. Rawlinson, E. R. Conder, & W. Clarkson (Eds.), The Pulpit commentary: Psalms (Vol. II). New York: Funk & Wagnalls. Retrieved March 29, 2007 from Logos Bible software (Version 3.0c) [CD-ROM].
 
 
Chicago/Turabian 
Footnote:
A. E. Humphreys, The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges: Timothy and Titus (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1895), 1 Timothy 3:2, E-sword Version 12.2.0
 
 
Shortened Note:
Humphreys, The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges, 1 Timothy 3:2
 
 
Bibliography
Humphreys, A. E. The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges: Timothy and Titus.  Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1895. E-sword Version 12.2.0
 
 
 
 
I Hope this helps
 
 
 
 
Bishop Christopher Bryant
Presiding Bishop, The Assemblies of Christ, Intl.
Diocesan Ordinary, The Diocese of Christ the Winner
President, Kerygma Bible College & Theological Seminary.




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