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[Tim Butterfield]

As a side note, 1st Corinthians 15:51 Is often found on the door or walls of church nurseries.  

 

1Co 15:51  Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
 

[inspiralight]

Thank you Peter and BH for your participation in this discussion. It's much appreciated.

But now I'm embarassed!

I titled my original post saying "ABP+ is great"

However, I said that based entirely on the fact that suddenly I had a Septuagint in eSword with Strong's numbers which I could mouse over to see immediate information about the underlying Greek words.  In other words, I loved having the eSword-style usability, but at that point I didn't read much of the text in this ABP+. In the past few days I was reading some verses in it, and I find this translation to be useless for reading the Old Testament.

Apologies to the translator, but it reads like a literal, word for word translation, so some sentences end up sounding like Gibberish. No wonder there isn't an ABP! What the ABP+ has done, apparently, is to take the Greek version, and just translate each word into a literal English equivalent, and give it a Strongs number. That IS giving you the most accurate idea of what the original Greek words were, but it produces almost unreadable sentences in English. That leaves YOU in the position of needing to be the translator--knowing Greek well enough to figure out the sentence is trying to say, while ignoring the bizarre sounding word for word English translation. I'm not sure what to do at this point for a readable Septuagint. I heard good things about the Septuagint. If anyone has suggestions I'm eager to hear them. Either that or please talk me out of using the Septuagint.

:-)

All the best,

James

[pfpeller]

http://majoritytext.com/

 

The author of the EMTV version also produced an updated translation of the the old LXXe translation and combined it with the the EMTV.  The combined version is called the Logos Bible.  

 

Here is the authors note about the updated translation of the LXX:

 

What is the Apostles’ Bible? The Apostles’ Bible is a revision of Sir Lancelot C.L. Brenton’s (1807-1862) original translation of the Greek Septuagint, which was first published in London in 1851. What I have done, is updated this great work to make it more readable, in today’s English, while leaving it absolutely “literal”, as it was originally translated.

 

The Logos Bible (includes The Apostles' Bible and EMTV) is currently available for MySword as an official download. 

 

It is for sale here in e book form for $15.00.  http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/elected

 

It is possible we could get permission for e sword for free, since it was given for MySword.  I have not asked.

 

The official MySword Version could easily be converted to e sword by one of our programmers.

 

Blessings,

Peter

[pfpeller]

One other comment about the ABP.  Those little red numbers are supposed to help you with the Word order in English.

[inspiralight]

Hi Peter,

Guess what. As soon as I posted that last post, I logged out and figured I'd check my email before calling it a day. I had one email. It was Rick letting me know about a very readable English translation of the Septuagint available for download within eSword. Based on the timing it felt like a perfect instance of "Ask and Ye Shall Receive." It's called the Brenton translation, and I find it very readable. A huge thank you to Rick on that one. So now this issue is resolved for me, and thanks again for all the help you guys kindly offered.

Blessings,

James

P.S. Editing this post to say, THANK YOU  for that comment about the red numbers and the word order. I noticed that comment only after I posted my reply. I foresee that being potentially very useful when I want to do a really intensive study regarding a particular verse.

Edited by inspiralight, 04 August 2013 - 10:28 PM.

[pfpeller]

Hi Peter,

Guess what. As soon as I posted that last post, I logged out and figured I'd check my email before calling it a day. I had one email. It was Rick letting me know about a very readable English translation of the Septuagint available for download within eSword. Based on the timing it felt like a perfect instance of "Ask and Ye Shall Receive." It's called the Brenton translation, and I find it very readable. A huge thank you to Rick on that one. So now this issue is resolved for me, and thanks again for all the help you guys kindly offered.

Blessings,

James

 

 

Yes, this one is good as well.  The one I mention above is an update of the original Brenton translation into more modern English (but still literal).

[inspiralight]

Yes, this one is good as well.  The one I mention above is an update of the original Brenton translation into more modern English (but still literal).

I hope an eSword version is made. I don't want to mess with other Bible programs at this point. Not only am I happy with how eSword works, but I love that the creator of eSword gave it to the world as a gift in an act of Christian kindness and generosity. I'm reminded of that each and every time I use eSword. All the best,

James

[patchworkid]

hi 

 

I have APB I will upload if it is ok ....please let me know if I can. without strongs but it does have foot notes and cross references. but I can take them out.

 

thanks

[Tim Butterfield]

I hope an eSword version is made. I don't want to mess with other Bible programs at this point. Not only am I happy with how eSword works, but I love that the creator of eSword gave it to the world as a gift in an act of Christian kindness and generosity. I'm reminded of that each and every time I use eSword. All the best,

James

The Brenton translation of the Septuagint is available in the built in e-Sword downloader.