Liddell-Scott-Jones Lexicon of Classical Greek

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Let me know if it's worth the time and effort Especially keying it to Strong's

Edited by DSaw, 29 December 2011 - 12:46 PM.

I would appreciate the effort, but I've found that I don't use any of the dictionaries unless they are keyed to Strong's numbers. Hence my vote for keying it to Strongs.

Somehow I have managed to acquire a Liddell-Scott-Jones for e-Sword version 9/10. Being of an age where memory is fleeting, I do not remember where or how I acquired it. It is not keyed to Strong's. Therefore, I too, being a biblical language novice, find it a bit difficult to use but use it I do..

The information panel provides the following:

Henry George Liddell
Robert Scott
A Greek-English Lexicon (unabridged)
Revised and augmented throughout by
Sir Henry Stuart Jones with the assistance of Roderick McKenzie
Oxford Clarendon Press 1940
Imported to The Word Bible Software from the electronic text compiled for the Palm Pilot for use with the Roadlingua dictionary program by John Jackson 2008 (http://text.handheldclassics.com/).

A world of thanks to the
Perseus Project, Tufts University and
Gregory Crane
for bringing the LSJ into the public domain.

Prepared under the supervision of
Lisa Cerrato, William Merrill,
Elli Mylonas, and David Smith.
The National Science Foundation
Trustees of Tufts University, Medford, MA

The main difficulty I have with this module is that the section titles substitute a "?" for at least 50% of the letters. This occures only in the section title. I have found that to be more of an annoyance than a detriment because the Greek word is duplicated immediately below the "question" title text.

Somehow I have managed to acquire a Liddell-Scott-Jones. Being of an age where memory is fleeting I do not recall where or how I acquired it. The module's information panel provides the following information:

Henry George Liddell
Robert Scott
A Greek-English Lexicon (unabridged)
Revised and augmented throughout by
Sir Henry Stuart Jones with the assistance of Roderick McKenzie
Oxford Clarendon Press 1940
Imported to The Word Bible Software from the electronic text compiled for the Palm Pilot for use with the Roadlingua dictionary program by John Jackson 2008 (http://text.handheldclassics.com/).

A world of thanks to the
Perseus Project, Tufts University and
Gregory Crane
for bringing the LSJ into the public domain.

Prepared under the supervision of
Lisa Cerrato, William Merrill,
Elli Mylonas, and David Smith.
The National Science Foundation
Trustees of Tufts University, Medford, MA

The main difficulty I have with the module is that the bolded text of the section title is about 50% "?". Example:

??ßa?t??
ἀάβακτοι· ἀβλαβεῖς, Hsch. ; cf. ἀάβηκτον· μέλαν, ἀβλαβές, Et.Gud. ( -βυκτον Cyr. )

I have found that this to be more of an annoyance than a detriment because the title text is duplicated immediately below.

Edited by Ebed Doulos, 29 December 2011 - 02:30 PM.

Hi Ebed

how does your copy work with eSword does it slow down eSword performance

I have been looking for a good source to use for the text I have ruled out scanned versions for now

If yours works well with eSword All I would have to do is Key it to Strongs Cutting months off the project time

Edited by DSaw, 29 December 2011 - 03:05 PM.

I've not noticed any slowdown. I tried to do an attachment but got the following error.

LSJLex.dctx

Upload Skipped (This file was too big to upload)

Provide me your e-mail and I send you the file.

Edited by Ebed Doulos, 29 December 2011 - 03:09 PM.

Ebed check your Messages Please

I would appreciate the effort, but I've found that I don't use any of the dictionaries unless they are keyed to Strong's numbers. Hence my vote for keying it to Strongs.

Hi Brad,
In many instances not all dictionaries can be keyed to the Strong's numbering system. And the only ones that do work for that system are the Hebrew and Greek Lexicons. That said, however I think where those that do use Strong's numbers, there are a couple keyed into the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (TWOT) numbering system (Brown, Driver, Briggs Hebrew Definitions) and the Thelogical Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT [fondly known as the Big Kittel]) numbering system (Thayer's Greek Definitions), that these (TWOT and TDNT) should be a part of the e-Sword library so that they can work with each other. As for the TDNT, I think having the abridged edition (Small Kittel) wouldn't work as well as the unabridged (exhaustive) edition.

Theological Dictionaries are really good and have an added value in expository Bible study, and I use them to a very large extent as they give me an insight that I would not normally have if I didn't have them. Perhaps the best Greek Lexicon I have is the WordStudy Dictionary by AMG Publishers (and the TDNT - not official) as I find it quite exhaustive in its definitions. Thayer's and BDB are actually good, but would be better if we had the TDNT and the TWOT respectively so that they could work alongside them.

When it comes to the Liddell, Scott, and Jones Greek Lexicon, now there you also have me drooling at the mouth. I just praise God that it's not in hardcopy format as I would wear it out in next to no time. Either which way it comes, bring it on! Wooo, Glory to God.

Blessings,
Stephen (Php 1:21).

Edited by APsit190, 29 December 2011 - 04:22 PM.

100's of members a day at least visit this site only 24 viewed this post out of them 11 voted 13 where not even interested enough in Liddell Scott Jones Lexicon to even vote

I'm still working on A manual Greek Lexicon but when done, unless something changes I cant see putting in the time and effort into Liddell Scott as a module which seemingly has very little interest in it

David aka DSaw

100's of members a day at least visit this site only 24 viewed this post out of them 11 voted 13 where not even interested enough in Liddell Scott Jones Lexicon to even vote

I'm still working on A manual Greek Lexicon but when done, unless something changes I cant see putting in the time and effort into Liddell Scott as a module which seemingly has very little interest in it

Hey Dave,
Now, mate, that is a huge assumption, and even if you were correct in your assumption what is most important bro, you're putting out something for those of us who could and would actually it.

What you are working on is not just some ordinary dictionary, but one that is used in theological seminaries and by Pastors who have a loopy thing like a PhD or something like that. That kind of dictionary isn't for the uninitiated, mate... Like that is heavy duty theological stuff for doing exegesis. I know I would use that dictionary alongside with the other two unmentionable ones I got, and I reckon that Josh, Dr Dave, and others would too.

So, I reckon it would be a real shame if you decided to ditch it.

Then again, here is another thought for ya. You know, there may be just lots of people who don't like answering Questionaires, and don't see the point of them. Me, I hate the darn things. So don't give up mate, because what you're doing is really worth it.

Blessings,
Stephen (Php 1:21).