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Marian C.

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In Topic: Strong Dictionary: How to add 3751 new entries?

08 October 2020 - 11:36 AM

 

All of the Strong's Concordance modules available for most bible software packages are based on the printed version of the concordance which is a copyrighted work via Thomas Nelson publishing company. As such the modules are licensed for use with various bible software packages 

 

Thanks! You have opened my eyes. In this case the solution is very simple. Charles VanderPool worked out not only a new translation of the full Greek Scriptures, but also a Analytical Lexicon containing all the Greek words appearing in the Greek Old (LXX) & New Testament. It has almost 1000 entries, each of them having its meanings and 

its Strong number (old or new one). I will then use Charles work and I will produce from scratch a new complete dictionary, say ABP-dictionary. No more copyright and licensing problems.


In Topic: Strong Dictionary: How to add 3751 new entries?

08 October 2020 - 10:19 AM

 

Editing new numbers into existing Strong's dictionary modules may not be doable, that being said it should be possible to VanderPool's information to the dictionary so that the entry for G180 which is displayed as follows:

 

G180
 
ἀκατάπαυστος
akatapaustos
ak-at-ap'-ow-stos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of G2664; unrefraining: - that cannot cease.
Total KJV occurrences: 1
 
The information for VanderPool's number G180.2 could be added below the existing Strong's information and so on for all of the other VanderPool's numbers

 

 

Your solution is interesting, but I really want an entry for each Greek word. We are in a technological era: the dictionary will be in a database, and I need a primary key for each entry in the dictionary. 


In Topic: Strong Dictionary: How to add 3751 new entries?

04 October 2020 - 09:11 AM

When you say "Charles VanderPool added 3751 new Strong numbers. And there are 5624 "classical" Strong numbers." could you give us an example of what you are referring to. eg  a added number with the Greek and included text from the dictionary and where it would be used in the bible.

 

My initial post is complete. But you are right: I’ll take the opportunity to explain that more clearly. Consider LXX Genesis 1:2:

 

Gen 1:2  η G3588 δε G1161 γη G1065 ην G1510 αορατος G517 και G2532 ακατασκευαστος και G2532 σκοτος G4655 επανω G1883 της G3588 αβυσσου G12 και G2532 πνευμα G4151 θεου G2316 επεφερετο G2018 επανω G1883 του G3588 υδατος G5204 

 

I’ll proceed point by point

  1. the Greek word, "αόρατος" (unseen), has a “classical” Strong number, G517;

  2. G517 has 7 occurrences in the whole Bible: 2 in the LXX OT and 5 in the NT: Gen 1:2, Is 45:3, Rom 1:20, 2Co 4:4, Col 1:15,16, 1Ti 1:17, Heb 11:27

  3. Because "αόρατος" is present in the NT, James Strong assigned to it the number G517

  4. But if we take now the Greek word "ακατασκεύαστος" (unready), you can see there’s no Strong number for it, because "ακατασκεύαστος" isn’t present in the NT

  5. LXX contains many words which aren’t present in the NT, and having no Strong number

  6. Charles VanderPool filled this gap and assigned to "ακατασκεύαστος" the number G180.2; 

  7. But why G180.2? Even if this is beyond the scope, I’ll explain that too: the word "ακατασκεύαστος" has the root “ακαταπαστους” (ceaseless), which the “regular” Strong number G180, as “ακαταπαστους” (ceaseless) is used in 2 Peter 2:14. Therefore, Charles VanderPool linked the LXX-only-word "ακατασκεύαστος" to the NT-word “ακαταπαστους”, by assigning to it the "new" Strong number G180.2. (Notice also that G180.1 also exists and corresponds to another word present in Job 20:18).

  8.  As said, Charles VanderPool added 3751 new Strong numbers.

 

If you check the LXX, you’ll see all these words without Strong numbers. For ex on StudyBible, here: https://studybible.info/LXX_WH/Genesis%201

 

On the other hand, if you check ABP you will find that each word has a Strong-like number. For ex, BibleHub has ABP and the “new” Strong numbers are there: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/apostolic/genesis/1.htm

Also, MySword ABP has it too, as you can see in the screenshot of my initial post.

 

What is then missing? Well, the new ABP Strong numbers aren’t present in the dictionaries. On BibleHub, if you click on G180.2 you will get G180. All the other Android applications don’t have these “new” ABP Strong numbers in their dictionaries either.

 

The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest. - Mat 9:37b-38

 

Thank you all

God bless

 

Marian