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In Topic: telemetry and e-Sword

19 October 2021 - 08:09 PM

I'm firmly standing by the very real idea that "telemetry" is not needed.

At the least, it collects very specific data about my computer that I do not wish to have collected.

At the worst, it is specific data about me that is bought and sold; where I am being made "merchandise of" (2 Peter 2:2), simply for using a Bible program.

Telemetry is not necessary for e-Sword.



This is about privacy, being exploited, and the respect of personal information.

And there is nothing in the e-Sword installer (e-sword_1300_setup.exe) that mentions "telemetry" or "data collection".

In Topic: telemetry and e-Sword

19 October 2021 - 08:00 PM

I think you are just freaking out over a word which really you have no understanding what it actually is and/or what it is used for. Now, if I am wrong, I apologize.

This is quite rude, and I would argue the same against yourself.


Its important to note that without Telemetry technology it would be impossible to do anything on the internet.

That is not true.

"Telemetry" itself is a unique form of data collection.

And constant telemetry data being phoned home somewhere is not necessary.

Your misconception about "Telemetry" is the main point of your argument against me (as well as everyone who cares about privacy and respect with their Bible software) and it shows that you are greatly misunderstood as to what "Telemetry" is.

Here is a basic, and revealing, explanation from good old Wikipedia (notice the sub-entry of "Phoning Home"):



See also: Phoning home

In software, telemetry is used to gather data on the use and performance of applications and application components, e.g. how often certain features are used, measurements of start-up time and processing time, hardware, application crashes, and general usage statistics and/or user behavior. In some cases, very detailed data is reported like individual window metrics, counts of used features, and individual function timings.

This kind of telemetry can be essential to software developers to receive data from a wide variety of endpoints that can't possibly all be tested in-house, as well as getting data on the popularity of certain features and whether they should be given priority or be considered for removal. Due to concerns about privacy since software telemetry can easily be used to profile users, telemetry in user software is often user choice, commonly presented as an opt-in feature (requiring explicit user action to enable it) or user choice during the software installation process.

I'm from the vastly disappearing group of individuals who care about something called: "privacy".


Mate, all I can say about that is you seriously need to take you computer to a specialist and get it cleaned up, and get rid of the browser you are currently using and switch over to Firefox, Duck Duck Go, or Brave. Scrap MS Edge and Chrome (if that is what you are using).

Uh, "mate", Brave is that very registry entry with telemetry! Are you even aware of how Brave uses it?

There is no such thing as real privacy with any browser. They all "phone home" somewhere.



It will be interesting to see Rick Meyers e-mail reply...

JPG, same here... and still waiting on it.

I'm still sticking with theWord for now.

In Topic: telemetry and e-Sword

18 October 2021 - 03:01 PM

To the first part of your question, the answer is, "No."


At a guess, the telemetry is used for when you are wanting to purchase Premium resources via the Download Manager in e-Sword. It may also be used for the ability to play the audio files of the Bible and Translations on the current version of e-Sword, and sermon files. If you have a look in that folder in the Registry, you will notice that the Windows Media Player is listed. So going by that information, there is that definite link between e-Sword and its dependence on it to be able to connect to specific servers to play those files. ( O yeah, nearly forgot) Also to be able to send and collect data on premium purchases from eStudySource.


Trust you find this information/explanation helpful to you.


My registry folder also contains my browser's attempts at data harvesting; so it doesn't look good.


And isn't "eStudySource" a third party?

As well as "Sermon Audio"?

So the answer is probably a "yes" to the selling of user info... should it go to them... who knows where it goes?

Why would I want some other third party like eStudySource to know my computer model, operating system, resolution size, amount of keystrokes, etc.?

Or Sermon Audio?

Or anyone else, who may then sell that information elsewhere?


This is about privacy, being exploited, and the respect of personal information.

There is nothing in the e-Sword installer (e-sword_1300_setup.exe) that mentions "telemetry" or "data collection".

In Topic: telemetry and e-Sword

18 October 2021 - 12:45 PM

No response yet from Rick Meyers.


After deleting the registry key/folder from within the Registry Editor, e-Sword regenerates a new one at it's launch.

Due to all the mystery and potential rottenness of telemetry, this is disheartening and I'm not looking to return to e-Sword.

In Topic: telemetry and e-Sword

17 October 2021 - 12:36 PM

Simply ask the developer Rick Meyers