Ebed Doulos

I am probably wrong in this but check the spelling.  I am of an age where I remember when manual typewriters were considered high tech and state of the art.   I also remember when optical character readers would quite often confuse one letter for another.  Lower case "l" (ell), the upper case "I" (aye) and the numeric "1" (one) can be confused. A really good typist could and would interchange these letters and others with similar characteristics in order to increase their typing speed.  Sometimes the typist did not have a choice because many typewriters did not have a numeric one or a zero key.  OCR software can be maddening for the user faced with such circumstances.  Even when it looks correct, it may not be.

Perhaps you are a victim of "ancient paths".

WOW! from restart to OT completion in one week.  Impressive!

That is perfect! Thanks!

Josh, I agree.  However, the question I ask is do I really need a Ferrari when a Ford will meet my requirements.

I agree. However, if it comes from someone who was once in that religion, and he gives a historical account of what happened while he was involved, I believe it would be useful. The problem with Mormons is that they have a very bad habit of hiding many of the things they believe and teach from "outsiders." Try asking the next Mormon "elders" who come to your door if they are wearing their ceremonial underwear. And no, this isn't a joke. Ask them about the time that Joseph Smith's wife balked at the idea that he could have extra wives, and so within a few days, he had a revelation from God, directed at her, basically saying, "he can have all the wives he wants." If people in a denomination would be honest and forthright enough to answer the questions and explain all of their beliefs, that'd be great. Unfortunately, Mormonism isn't either. On the other hand, I know some J.W.s who are very open with answering any question and providing any material (for free) that you might want. Perhaps it's because they're somewhat related (related to my in-laws), but they were very happy to answer anything I had to ask without being pushy. They're still wrong, but at least they were open about it. -Brad

As a preface, I've done quite a bit of personal research on the Mormons (and Jehovah's Witnesses, Evangelicals, Catholics, 7th Day Adventists, Christian Scientists, Moonies, Muslims, Scientology, and a whole slew of other religious movements).  

That said, I do believe that if you asked about my underwear, ceremonial or otherwise, I would think you were creepy.  If you asked my wife, she'd slap you.  And you might very well mistake my disgust, disdain and the punch you get in the nose as me trying to hide something.  Just sayin' ...

As for a polygamy revelation it would appear that there is some argument about it within the various Mormon factions.  Yes, there are several Mormon factions; at least a couple of dozen that I've run across in my research.  Some of the Mormons (Brighamites/Utah) say Joseph Smith received the Revelation.  They still publish it and accept it as scripture, even though the Brighamite faction has not practiced polygamy for over a century.  The faction followed by Smith's first wife and son/heir (Josephites/Missouri) originally denied such a revelation ever existed. Consequently, the Josephite faction never practiced polygamy. In fact it appears as though Emma said of the story told by the Brighamite faction: "It is false in all its parts, made out of whole cloth, without any foundation in truth."  The Brighamite faction counters this with a list of Smith's wives, all of whom he obviously married while married to his first wife.  So if Smith received the revelation and Young did not fake it, then the story is factual.  On the other hand if Young faked the revelation, then Joseph could not have used it to pressure his wife into accepting polygamy.  Either way, the Mormons do not appear to be hiding much if anything.  One interesting factoid is that recently the Josephite faction seems to have accepted the polygamous history of Smith.

In short:
It is creepy to inquire about what kind of underwear people might be wearing.
The Brighamite faction "hide" the revelation in their scriptures: https://www.lds.org/...dc/132?lang=eng.
The Josephite faction originally "hid" the revelation by denying its authenticity and very existence and denying that Smith had more than one wife. http://en.wikipedia...._Saint_polygamy
However, the Josephite faction is now "hiding" the possibility that Smith did indeed practice polygamy. http://www.cofchrist...urfaith/faq.asp
The Brighamite faction "hide" the names and numbers of Smith's wives on their official genealogy website. https://familysearch...M9.2.1/9S9S-PD2

If the Mormons are hiding something, they are not doing a very good job, now are they?

This is the reason why I like to do my own research and make up my own mind.  It is waaaaay more fun.

I am always leery about expose type books, though my library would convict me as it contains a bunch of such books.  At least half a shelf.  That said, I've learned over the years that I prefer to go to the denomination itself and then make up my own mind rather than have someone else put his spin on it and spoon feed me his tripe.  I would hope that if the shoe was on the other foot, that others would treat my own denomination fairly. "Do unto others ... etc."

I'm told that "How Wide the Divide" is a good book on Mormonism but I've not yet got around to reading it.

Edit:  I looked it up on Amazon and it is inexpensive.
http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/0830819916

Try these two:

1.  This is the King James but with the Apocrypha.
http://www.biblesupp...with-apocrypha/

2. This is the King James but some folks believe it is a more accurate version because in 12 places the English spelling/capitalization is supposedly more accurate.
http://www.biblesupp...bridge-edition/

I also am not finding what is referred to as the "topic editor".

This should be an easy one.

1. At the top of e-sword you will find an icon bar.  One of the icons has a largish capital "E".  When you click on that it will maximize the editor window. (NOTE: this is optional step that will no longer be needed if your editor is readily available.  To reverse this, use the Icon just to the left of the icon with a capital "B".)
2. Once the editor window is maximized, look at the row below the Icon Bar. You will find three tabs, one of which is labeled "Topic Notes.  Click on that tab. This is the Topic editor.
3. Now find the drop-down menu on the icon bar just above the input/editing area.  Click on the down caret in the drop-down menu.  Voila! You have found your topx files.

"The Message" is only US$12.99 from eStudySource.  (http://estudysource.....aspx?pid=B0001)  Watch for sales.  They regular discount their wares by 25% and occasionally more.  That is very inexpensive.  Right now you can pick up a nice bundle of four Premium Bibles which includes "the Message" for only $35.96. (http://estudysource.com/biblebundle/)

Hi
I have a thought I want to share to you and maybe someone that is good in programming can help or maybe ther is already such a add on. The thought is a family tree so that we can follow from Adam everyone in his family throughout the Bible.
Thanks.
Johann

Genealogy is difficult.  It is difficult to document relationships.  It is difficult to get agreement on whether or not there even is relationships.  Take for example the family of Jesus:

Mary

Mother

Luke 2:7

Joseph

Step-Father

Mary’s husband

Luke 2:5

James, another Apostle   

Brother

Son of Joseph & Mary   

Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3; Galatians 1:19

Joses

Brother

Son of Joseph & Mary   

Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3

Simon   

Brother

Son of Joseph & Mary   

Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3

Jude

Brother

Son of Joseph & Mary   

Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3

Unknown Name

Sisters

Daughter of Joseph & Mary

Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3

Mary – the other Mary

Maternal Aunt

Wife of Cleopas

Matthew 27:56, 61; Mark 15:47; John 19:25

Cleopas (Cleophas, Alphaeas)

Uncle

Husband of the other Mary

John 19:25

Apostle James the Less

Cousin

Son of Cleopas & the other Mary

Matthew 10:3; Matthew 27:56; Mark 3:18; Mark 15:40

Apostle Matthew (Levi)

Cousin

Son of Cleopas & the other Mary

Mark 2:14

Joses

Cousin

Son of Cleopas & the other Mary

Mark 15:40

Salome

Cousin

Daughter of Cleopas & the other Mary, Wife of Zebedee

Mark 15:40; Matthew 27:56

Zebedee

Cousin-in-law

Husband of Salome

Matthew 27:56

Apostle James

Cousin-once-removed

Son of Zebedee and Salome

Mark 1:19; Luke 5:10

Apostle John

Cousin-once-removed

Son of Zebedee and Salome

Mark 1:19; Luke 5:10

Elizabeth

Cousin-once-removed?

Relative (cousin?) of Jesus’ Mother

Luke 1:36

Zacharias

Cousin-in-law once-removed?

Husband of Elizabeth

Luke 1:5   

With rare exception, each of these individuals relationship to each other is disputed.  There are some who do not believe that Mary, the mother of the Christ, had other children.  There are those who say that John 19:25 mentions four women while other contend that only three are listed.  There are some who say that Salome is a sister to Mary, the mother of the Christ, while others insist that she has another relationship.

This is just one family which is pretty well documented.  Imagine all the difficulties for all the other families listed in the Bible.

I do not think I have ever pressed the red negative button.  I do not think I am qualified to make such a decision.  On the other hand, I have pressed the green positive button for several reasons:

If I am emotionally or spiritually moved by the post.
If the individual is giving us a module that is needed/wanted.
If the post is well reasoned and the logic points are scripturally justified
If the post is helpful to me or others.
If a post has received an overall negative rating, I may use my choice to cancel the negative out.
If I just like what the post says.
If I just feel like doing it for whatever reason or for no reason at all.
Other: to be determined as the cases arise.

Mostly I forget I have the option of doing so, having reached an age where I cannot remember why I got up to go into another room.

As for useful web sites: http:/ /carm.org

and here: http://www.forananswer.org/

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Not everybody is infatuated by CARM.  I am one that is not.  Outside of skinhead and neo-nazi sites and others of similar ilk, one would be hard pressed to find a site that is more hate-filled, non-charitible and un-Christ-like.  There are other sites from which one can obtain the same information without having to wade through Carm's sewage.
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Sorry.

I must be blind.  I saw where the individual discusses the modules he has built but I could not see where I could down load any.  I would like to have the KJV-Rainbow Bible but I'll probably need a map, protractor and compass in order to find it.

If I understand you correctly, you are looking for the Polish Biblia Gdanska.  If that is correct, that module is a free official download.

From within e-Sword:

1. Click on the menu item [Download] and select Bibles.
2. This will open up the Module Downloader.  Scroll down to the Polish section.  There are two modules from which you can select: a.) Polish Biblia Gdanska and b.) Polish Uwspolczesniona Biblia Gdanska.

I hope this helps.

Thanks Josh.  This is a great ministry.  If I can be of service to you (or others) with my meager artistic talents, let me know.