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inspiralight

Member Since 10 Jul 2013
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In Topic: ABP+ is Great! Is there an ABP without the Plus?

04 August 2013 - 10:46 PM

Yes, this one is good as well.  The one I mention above is an update of the original Brenton translation into more modern English (but still literal).

I hope an eSword version is made. I don't want to mess with other Bible programs at this point. Not only am I happy with how eSword works, but I love that the creator of eSword gave it to the world as a gift in an act of Christian kindness and generosity. I'm reminded of that each and every time I use eSword. All the best,

James


In Topic: ABP+ is Great! Is there an ABP without the Plus?

04 August 2013 - 10:24 PM

Hi Peter,

Guess what. As soon as I posted that last post, I logged out and figured I'd check my email before calling it a day. I had one email. It was Rick letting me know about a very readable English translation of the Septuagint available for download within eSword. Based on the timing it felt like a perfect instance of "Ask and Ye Shall Receive." It's called the Brenton translation, and I find it very readable. A huge thank you to Rick on that one. So now this issue is resolved for me, and thanks again for all the help you guys kindly offered.

Blessings,

James

P.S. Editing this post to say, THANK YOU  for that comment about the red numbers and the word order. I noticed that comment only after I posted my reply. I foresee that being potentially very useful when I want to do a really intensive study regarding a particular verse.


In Topic: ABP+ is Great! Is there an ABP without the Plus?

04 August 2013 - 09:51 PM

Thank you Peter and BH for your participation in this discussion. It's much appreciated.

But now I'm embarassed!

I titled my original post saying "ABP+ is great"

However, I said that based entirely on the fact that suddenly I had a Septuagint in eSword with Strong's numbers which I could mouse over to see immediate information about the underlying Greek words.  In other words, I loved having the eSword-style usability, but at that point I didn't read much of the text in this ABP+. In the past few days I was reading some verses in it, and I find this translation to be useless for reading the Old Testament.

Apologies to the translator, but it reads like a literal, word for word translation, so some sentences end up sounding like Gibberish. No wonder there isn't an ABP! What the ABP+ has done, apparently, is to take the Greek version, and just translate each word into a literal English equivalent, and give it a Strongs number. That IS giving you the most accurate idea of what the original Greek words were, but it produces almost unreadable sentences in English. That leaves YOU in the position of needing to be the translator--knowing Greek well enough to figure out the sentence is trying to say, while ignoring the bizarre sounding word for word English translation. I'm not sure what to do at this point for a readable Septuagint. I heard good things about the Septuagint. If anyone has suggestions I'm eager to hear them. Either that or please talk me out of using the Septuagint.

:-)

All the best,

James


In Topic: ABP+ is Great! Is there an ABP without the Plus?

03 August 2013 - 08:33 PM

Question - will Charles Van der Pool give permission to produce a non-plus version of ABP?

Thank you BH, for your reply. Apparently you are right about that being the question, because Rick Meyers says that (contrary to what I had imagined) he was given the ABP text with the Strongs numbers already in it. No wonder there's no ABP without the plus! So the next step is to find out exactly what you asked. Thanks again,

James


In Topic: ABP+ is Great! Is there an ABP without the Plus?

02 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

The person who made the e sword module may have gotten the text with the Strong's numbers from the author.   They may have to be stripped from the text.  The e sword version is an official module, so it is encrypted.  You may have to contact the author of ABP, or Rick Meyers.

The original author is Charles Van der Pool. I spoke with him about it, and he gave eSword the text for ABP, and someone at eSword had to do all the work of creating a module that works in eSword. It stands to reason that in the process of creating the ABP plus, they first had to create an ABP, then add all the Strong's references, and I'm guessing they didn't trash the version of ABP without the Strong's references. You're right, it does look like I need to talk to Rick Meyers about it. Thanks again for your help, it is much appreciated.

James