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#1 ComfortersCorner

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 10:17 AM

I have been using the e-Sword hotkey now for quite awhile, I hesitate to think how long, years.  I do not understand why it gets so few downloads as it is such a useful utility.

 

I recently went back to using the 390 version because I had problems with the newer versions.  Everything was working as expected until recently.  The hotkey utility finds the verse in e-Sword as expected when copied, but when the hotkey is depressed to bring it into the word processor and then ctrl+v to paste it only pastes the reference that was copied or whatever was copied e.g. a segment of text containing references.  I tried uninstalling and reinstalling and it only picked up former settings somehow and the problem continued.  I tried downloading the latest version 2019.320 and the same thing is happening.  (Incidentally the red e icon is not coming up on the taskbar and will not change even from the properties.)

 

For awhile the popup window would come up instead of pasting into the word processor even though the popup options were not selected.  Somehow or other that has stopped happening, but the pasting issue continues.  I am using this in Windows 7 pro.  I would certainly appreciate help as I depend on the hotkey a great deal.  Thanks

 

Gary


Edited by ComfortersCorner, 29 March 2019 - 10:21 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2019 - 03:29 PM

Which function is causing issues?  The HotKey for the e-Sword Macros, or the HotKey for the Bible Popup?  It HotKey showing you the correctly found verse in either popup, Macro of Bible popup?  Please describe you setup, what hot keys you have designated and the process you are using completely so I can understand. 

 

I am the author of the program and I find it working perfects - of course!  :-) 



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 07:17 PM

Hi, First let me say that I sure have appreciated your program.  I don't use Word so the Word macros are not helpful.  I was really pleased to find the Hotkey program and use it a great deal in my Bible study preparation.  So Thank You.

 

I was using F6 as the Bible hotkey and it stopped working.  That could be something wrong with the keyboard, I suppose.  I registered F7 then and it worked for awhile.  I am confident that it is not the keyboard that is not working now since the key registers fine when I depress it to register it and the taskbar icon flashes showing it is working.  The verses show correctly in the popup, but that has just started happening.  I don't know how to get them from the popup.  I never use to see the popup, they would just copy into the word processor (WordPerfect X7) after depressing the hotkey and ctl+v.  I changed the hotkey designated for the popup to 0 in the configuration file so the popup no longer comes up, but it still doesn't paste the verse into the word processor.  This issue was happening before the popup started coming up.

 

So the process, when I copy the reference in the word processor e-Sword changes to the proper verse, I wait for the taskbar icon to stop flashing and then depress the hotkey F7 and then wait for the taskbar icon to stop flashing again, then ctl+v and all that pastes is whatever I copied to bring over from e-Sword.  As a test I just changed the Bible hotkey to F5 and it still did not paste.  What is odd is that this is happening now in two versions of the program.  The new installation must draw from the old one somewhere in the registry?

 

Thanks for your help.

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 07:39 PM

First - in HotKey - the Macros for Word should still be installed, not because you are using Word, but that HotKey is using the macro interface.  You can install any of the macros that work with your current version of e-Sword.  The popups happen when you press the HotKey to confirm you have captured the text.  It is automatically copies the text to the clipboard, and pressing Esc closes the Popup.  Then in your word processor, press Ctrl+V to paste the text in.  You are correct, it you Config, you can suppress the Macro Popup, though me personally I like seeing it. 

 

The only items written to the Registry is the auto-start of the program on Windows startup.  IF you want, close Hotkey, and delete the "C:\ProgramData\Tools4eSword\ESwordHotKey.ini" file and restart the program. 



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 08:07 PM

I have the Word Macro 2016 installed that I have had installed right along.  I just confirmed that and did a repair on it just in case, but it made no difference.

 

I am following the process you described and have repeated it several times since reading your reply with no different results.  The verse visibly changes in e-Sword but will not paste into the word processor.



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 09:00 PM

Did you turn the Popup back on, and can you see the verses popup using the Macro hotkey?   Also, have you tried the Bible popup hotkey?  Hotkey is installed with a few versions, but you can download and updated index file that works with e-Sword.  From the main Hotkey window, click the HotKeys menu, click the Select Version, and select the last option, "Download Lastest Index File" which will give you access to more versions if you have them in e-Sword. The Macro function give access to all the versions in e-Sword, but Popup does not. The reason for the Bible popup is that with the most recent versions of e-Sword, the macro functions are at least an order of magnitude slower that they used to be. 

 

Try both the Macro and Bible popups, with the Macro popup enabled to confirm capture.  And if that does not work, where are you located, perhaps we can skype or talk on the phone sometime.



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 09:14 PM

I clicked on the index file as suggested and assume it did what it was suppose to as nothing showed up to show anything happened.  I just got an error message that the index download failed.  WSE_NOTIFY=6

 

I did turn the popup back on and it comes up as it should.

 

This is odd.  If I type the reference into the e-Sword hotkey window and select and copy from there it will paste into the e-Sword editor window correctly, but still will not paste into WordPerfect but it will into Open Office Writer.  In WP it only pastes the reference that I copied.  However, it will copy from Writer as it will in WordPerfect but not paste correctly there either.  I did a repair on WordPerfect but that didn't help either.

 

I am in Maine, I see you are in California where my mother-in-law is.  I won't be able to Skype or phone now until Monday.  Is there a way to exchange information without putting it into this topic.  I saw somewhere a send message button under your picture.  Would that work?



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 09:20 PM

It may be what WordPerfect is looking for in the Clipboard.  The Macro function put in RTF, Unicode and plain text.  The Bible Popup adds and HTML options. 

 

Yes, you can send a private message from Bible Support.  Also, if the old version is working, hey - use it!  But it would be interesting to know what is happening.  Have you tried pasting into say, WordPad? 



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 09:30 PM

go to: https://filedn.com/l...ications/HotKey

 

Download Bible.CF and put it into your "c:\ProgramData\Tools4eSword"  folder.  This is for the Bible Popup function, for you should set a separate hotkey.  I'm curious if you get different results when you paste into your word processor. 



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 09:36 PM

I just tried WordPad and it wouldn't even copy from there. Odd.  Nothing changed in e-Sword but the reference showed up in the hotkey window.

 

I installed the newer version today because 390 stopped working.  It is 11:45 here now, so I am heading to bed.  I will try what you just posted tomorrow and find the place to message you from.  Thank you for your time tonight.






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