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#1 gtealw

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:26 PM

All of my other installed dictionary modules display Hebrew text fine. It is only the Thayer Unabridged (download here) that I have a problem (see first image). The second image is what the Hebrew text should look like. Does anyone else have the same problem? Any ideas on how to remedy the issue?

 

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Andre

 

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#2 Tim Butterfield

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:40 PM

I think the problem is that Thayers isn't a Hebrew Dictionary, it is only Greek.  


Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

"Defenders of the faith are inclined to be bitter until they learn to walk in the light of the Lord. When you have learned to walk in the light of the Lord, bitterness and contention are impossible." --Oswald Chambers, in Biblical Psychology from The Quotable Oswald Chambers.

 

 

 


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:45 PM

Thayers is a Greek-English, it does not list Hebrew definitions.  That is why the reference numbers begin with G while those in Brown-Driver-Briggs (a Hebrew only dictionary the reference numbers begin with H.  Strongs has both.


Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

"Defenders of the faith are inclined to be bitter until they learn to walk in the light of the Lord. When you have learned to walk in the light of the Lord, bitterness and contention are impossible." --Oswald Chambers, in Biblical Psychology from The Quotable Oswald Chambers.

 

 

 


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:27 PM

In some cases, Thayers embeds Hebrew text especially when the Greek word is derived from Hebrew. G2 (Aaron) is a good example of both Greek and Hebrew text.

 

This is what G2 should look like:

 

Ἀαρών, indeclinable proper name ( Ἀαρών(ῶνος in Josephus), אַהֲרֹן (from the unused Hebrew radical אָהַר — Syriac )rYha ()libidinosus,lascivus — enlightened, Fürst; according to Dietrich wealthy, or fluent, like אומָר, according to Philo, de ebriet. § 32, from הַר mountain and equivalent to ὀρεινός), Aaron, the brother of Moses, the first high priest of the Israelites and the head of the whole sacerdotal order: Luke 1:5Acts 7:40Hebrews 5:4Hebrews 7:11Hebrews 9:4.

 

This is what it looks like in e-sword:

 

G2

Ἀαρών, indeclinable proper name (ὁ Ἀαρών, (ῶνος in Josephus), àÇäÂøÉï (from the unused Hebrew radical àÈäÇø — Syriac )rYha ()libidinosus,lascivus — enlightened, Frst; according to Dietrich wealthy, or fluent, like àåîÈø, according to Philo, de ebriet. § 32, from äÇø mountain and equivalent to ὀסויםע), Aaron, the brother of Moses, the first high priest of the Israelites and the head of the whole sacerdotal order: Luk_1:5; Act_7:40; Heb_5:4; Heb_7:11; Heb_9:4. 


#5 Tj Higgins

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:04 AM

 

In some cases, Thayers embeds Hebrew text especially when the Greek word is derived from Hebrew. G2 (Aaron) is a good example of both Greek and Hebrew text.

 

This is what G2 should look like:

 

Ἀαρών, indeclinable proper name ( Ἀαρών(ῶνος in Josephus), אַהֲרֹן (from the unused Hebrew radical אָהַר — Syriac )rYha ()libidinosus,lascivus — enlightened, Fürst; according to Dietrich wealthy, or fluent, like אומָר, according to Philo, de ebriet. § 32, from הַר mountain and equivalent to ὀρεινός), Aaron, the brother of Moses, the first high priest of the Israelites and the head of the whole sacerdotal order: Luke 1:5Acts 7:40Hebrews 5:4Hebrews 7:11Hebrews 9:4.

 

This is what it looks like in e-sword:

 

G2

Ἀαρών, indeclinable proper name (ὁ Ἀαρών, (ῶνος in Josephus), àÇäÂøÉï (from the unused Hebrew radical àÈäÇø — Syriac )rYha ()libidinosus,lascivus — enlightened, Frst; according to Dietrich wealthy, or fluent, like àåîÈø, according to Philo, de ebriet. § 32, from äÇø mountain and equivalent to ὀסויםע), Aaron, the brother of Moses, the first high priest of the Israelites and the head of the whole sacerdotal order: Luk_1:5; Act_7:40; Heb_5:4; Heb_7:11; Heb_9:4. 

 

 

You need to make sure in E-sword that the selected font for Hebrew is Titus Cyberbit Basic, this is the default font for Hebrew, Greek and Latin in e-Sword. You can access the fonts menu by selecting Options from the e-Sword menu and then fonts from the Options menu. The fonts menu allows fonts to be set for 13 languages as well as the over font settings for e-Sword and the pop up tooltips.

After reading your first post about this issue I downloaded Thayers dictionary and installed it into e-Sword on my computer and everything works fine with the correct font settings 


Edited by Tj Higgins, 15 May 2018 - 10:07 AM.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:00 PM

I attached a screenshot of what G2 in Thayer’s Unabridged looks like on my iPad. The Greek and Hebrew letters look great. Every now and then I get a rectangle instead of a letter, but I live with that.

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#7 gtealw

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:12 PM

I have TITUS Cyberbit Basic as the default Hebrew font (see attached). My Hebrew Bible displays fine but not the dictionary.

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#8 Tj Higgins

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:08 PM

I have TITUS Cyberbit Basic as the default Hebrew font (see attached). My Hebrew Bible displays fine but not the dictionary.

 

Try changing the Greek Font to Titus Cyberbit Basic the use of the Gentium font might be the issue. 

I would also suggest a new download and install of Thayer's as it is possible that your download was corrupted



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:05 PM

Have you tried the Thayer's Unabridged module for the iPad that Jogirl above showed in e-Sword for the PC?  It should work in the latest version of e-Sword for the PC. 

 

That said, the RTF module values in the older PC module in the link above for the Hebrew characters "may" be "fixed" by adding a fixed value of 1264 to their unicode value to bring them into the unicode code points in the Hebrew characters.  I will see if this can be done...



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:26 PM

Here is a comparison with your sample above in T4 after making the changes I was thinking about, though it is not yet perfect.  And the results in e-Sword for the PC

 

 

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