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#1 CitizenoftheRealm

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 08:37 PM

Just wondering if anyone is working on making an e-sword module for the Ben Chayyim Masoretic text (that was printed by Bomberg)?

Seems like someone should have done this one before - it was the basis for the Old Testament of the King James Bible.

I know that the PDF files of it are on the internet (I have them) - but it would be nice if someone who knows how to make e-sword modules would make one for e-sword users. :)

If there is already one made - can someone point me in the right direction - cause I'm not finding it.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 10:10 AM

you can create a topic file from your pdf if you convert the pdf into a word doc (RTF: rich text format. I have the pdf as well and when I have time I will convert it to an e-sword module. Could be a while. in the meantime if you have adobe acrobat pro 11 or higher you could get a pdf copy of strong's hebrew dictionary and merge it with your pdf of The ben Chayyim text and be able to do word studies etc.

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Posted 29 August 2020 - 07:19 PM

How can you do word studies by merging the strong's dictionary with the Masoretic text without the hebrew fonts loaded. Where can I get the hebrew fonts?



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Posted 20 February 2022 - 11:52 PM

How can you do word studies by merging the strong's dictionary with the Masoretic text without the hebrew fonts loaded. Where can I get the hebrew fonts?

Sorry - I wasn't attempting to ignore your question for several years - I haven't been on here in a long while, and they never sent me an email to let me know someone had commented. Thanks for your suggestions. Although, I am rather in the dark when it comes to computer stuff - so I don't really know how to merge PDFs. I also use a Linux based system, so I don't have Adobe programs. I also don't really read Hebrew, I can just make out what some words are by using some of the Hebrew texts that I already have on E-Sword and comparing with the Bomberg edition - back and forth - and comparing it to the Hebrew in the Strong's Concordance - very time consuming, but enjoyable.

As for the Hebrew fonts - I don't really know. I suppose you could just look for Hebrew fonts in the search engine, but it would probably need to be some sort of "old" Hebrew font in order to match up with these old Bibles.

On Linux, it gave me the option to install a Hebrew Keyboard, so I can switch from the English Keyboard to the Hebrew one and type in Hebrew - also very time consuming. One of these days, I would like to learn the Hebrew language - but every time I get started, I end up busy with another project and never get around to it.



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Posted 29 April 2022 - 10:44 PM

Sorry - I wasn't attempting to ignore your question for several years - I haven't been on here in a long while, and they never sent me an email to let me know someone had commented. Thanks for your suggestions. Although, I am rather in the dark when it comes to computer stuff - so I don't really know how to merge PDFs. I also use a Linux based system, so I don't have Adobe programs. I also don't really read Hebrew, I can just make out what some words are by using some of the Hebrew texts that I already have on E-Sword and comparing with the Bomberg edition - back and forth - and comparing it to the Hebrew in the Strong's Concordance - very time consuming, but enjoyable.

As for the Hebrew fonts - I don't really know. I suppose you could just look for Hebrew fonts in the search engine, but it would probably need to be some sort of "old" Hebrew font in order to match up with these old Bibles.

On Linux, it gave me the option to install a Hebrew Keyboard, so I can switch from the English Keyboard to the Hebrew one and type in Hebrew - also very time consuming. One of these days, I would like to learn the Hebrew language - but every time I get started, I end up busy with another project and never get around to it.

How about the commentaries that go with the Bomberg version?



#6 CitizenoftheRealm

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Posted 30 April 2022 - 03:03 PM

How about the commentaries that go with the Bomberg version?

Sorry, I guess I'm not understanding your question exactly. What are you asking about - and are you referring to commentary comments in the margins or are you talking about some other separate commentary? 



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Posted 02 May 2022 - 10:24 AM

In e-Sword for the Microsoft PC, click on the option "Download" > "Bibles" and browse down to the Hebrew language options. The Hebrew OT+ is the Hebrew Old Testament (Tanach) w/ Strong's Numbers, a Derivative work; public domain, Provided for e-Sword by the developer, Rick Meyers, since 2016-12-14. This is the unpointed Tanach, from the Masoretic text. Includes Strong's numbers for looking up the original Hebrew word in a lexicon.

 

Another option is on the "Download" > "Bibles" and browse down to the English language options. ABP+ "Apostolic Bible Polyglot w/ Strong's Numbers, Copyright 1966 by Charles Van Der Pool. All rights reserved. Used by permission. Provided for e-Sword by the developer, Rick Meyers, since 2019-07-06.

 

Apostolic Bible Polyglot w/ Strong's Numbers. The Apostolic Bible Polyglot is a Greek-English Interlinear of the Greek Septuagint and New Testament coded to Strong's numbers.
Free printable PDF's of the Apostolic Bible Polyglot may be downloaded and printed editions may be purchased at www.apostolicbible.com.
Greek words which appear in the Septuagint but not in the New Testament are inserted with decimal points, such as G303.1. Proper names are numbered with an asterisk, such as G*.
Copyright © 1996 by Charles Van der Pool. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

 


Edited by Olaf Bacon, 02 May 2022 - 10:38 AM.


#8 CitizenoftheRealm

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Posted 02 May 2022 - 04:18 PM

 

In e-Sword for the Microsoft PC, click on the option "Download" > "Bibles" and browse down to the Hebrew language options. The Hebrew OT+ is the Hebrew Old Testament (Tanach) w/ Strong's Numbers, a Derivative work; public domain, Provided for e-Sword by the developer, Rick Meyers, since 2016-12-14. This is the unpointed Tanach, from the Masoretic text. Includes Strong's numbers for looking up the original Hebrew word in a lexicon.

 

Another option is on the "Download" > "Bibles" and browse down to the English language options. ABP+ "Apostolic Bible Polyglot w/ Strong's Numbers, Copyright 1966 by Charles Van Der Pool. All rights reserved. Used by permission. Provided for e-Sword by the developer, Rick Meyers, since 2019-07-06.

 

Apostolic Bible Polyglot w/ Strong's Numbers. The Apostolic Bible Polyglot is a Greek-English Interlinear of the Greek Septuagint and New Testament coded to Strong's numbers.
Free printable PDF's of the Apostolic Bible Polyglot may be downloaded and printed editions may be purchased at www.apostolicbible.com.
Greek words which appear in the Septuagint but not in the New Testament are inserted with decimal points, such as G303.1. Proper names are numbered with an asterisk, such as G*.
Copyright © 1996 by Charles Van der Pool. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

 

Oh, OK - Thank you for the info. That will come in handy. I appreciate it.



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Posted 15 May 2022 - 02:40 AM

Sorry, I guess I'm not understanding your question exactly. What are you asking about - and are you referring to commentary comments in the margins or are you talking about some other separate commentary? 

From what I understand, his Bible was a Mikraot Gedelot (Rabbinic Bible). It contained not only the text, but comments from various Rabbis, etc.



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Posted 15 May 2022 - 09:47 PM

From what I understand, his Bible was a Mikraot Gedelot (Rabbinic Bible). It contained not only the text, but comments from various Rabbis, etc.

Oh, I see what you are saying. As I mentioned in my response to Novar, I don't really read Hebrew, especially not fluently, I can just compare letters and texts with things like the Hebrew dictionary in Strongs, etc. and sort of get the general idea of what the word is saying, but it is a rather tedious process for me. One of these days, I want to actually sit down and learn Hebrew for myself. But since I don't really read it currently, I don't really know anything about the Rabbis comments. I just know that many scholars have referred to Bomberg's 2nd Rabbinic Bible as the one that has the highest degree of accuracy, and when I've compared various words and concepts in the Hebrew text with the Bible and Strong's Hebrew, I have found it to be so. Whether the Rabbis commentary notes are accurate or good, I don't really know, but I would assume that they are pretty good since Ben Chayyim was a Jewish convert to Protestantism and he was the one responsible for the accurate text.






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