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#1 scatters

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 02:00 AM

Hi all,

 

Recent user of e-Sword and since using this great software I have purchased my own hard copy of Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament.

 

Can someone direct me to where I can purchase this module for e-Sword?

 

I have tried searching the internet but to no avail.

 

Kind Regards

 

 

 



#2 APsit190

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 06:18 AM

No!

 

Its not on here, and neither is it an official resource.



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 04:47 PM

It is available to purchase for theWord (http://www.theword.n...id=39&l=english).



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:29 PM

Thanks for the reply gents.

 

I take it that theWord module is not compatible with e-Sword?

 

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#5 Silverhair

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:08 PM

You could get a lot of these modules prior to Bible Support but not online any longer


Edited by Silverhair, 15 June 2017 - 11:56 PM.

I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it.

 

 

“DISCERNMENT is not simply telling the difference between what is Right and Wrong;

      rather, it is the difference between Right and almost right.”

 


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 01:08 AM



Recent user of e-Sword and since using this great software I have purchased my own hard copy of Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament.

 

This from the TWOT for 0002 abad

 

The foolish and senseless people perish (Psa_49:10 [H 11]). The man without understanding will soon perish like the beasts (Psa_49:20 [H 21]).

 

Could you tell me what the #'s in the [ ] stand for? They do not seem to be related to Strong's.


I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it.

 

 

“DISCERNMENT is not simply telling the difference between what is Right and Wrong;

      rather, it is the difference between Right and almost right.”

 


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:04 AM



This from the TWOT for 0002 abad

 

The foolish and senseless people perish (Psa_49:10 [H 11]). The man without understanding will soon perish like the beasts (Psa_49:20 [H 21]).

 

Could you tell me what the #'s in the [ ] stand for? They do not seem to be related to Strong's.

 

 

It is simply indicating that verses in the Hebrew Bible are found at Psa 49:11 and Psa 49:21

 

Jon



#8 Tj Higgins

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 09:50 AM

Thanks for the reply gents.

 

I take it that theWord module is not compatible with e-Sword?

 

Kind Regards

 

No modules for TheWord are not compatible with e-sword, the issue with TWOT is that is a copyrighted work and the copyright holder has to give permission for an e-sword module to be created. In all likelihood if that were to happen it would end up being a premium or pay module



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

It is simply indicating that verses in the Hebrew Bible are found at Psa 49:11 and Psa 49:21

 

Jon

 

Thanks Jon, I would not have guessed that. Even us old dogs can learn something new.


I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you believe it.

 

 

“DISCERNMENT is not simply telling the difference between what is Right and Wrong;

      rather, it is the difference between Right and almost right.”

 


#10 Tim Butterfield

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 04:10 PM

A few people who have been around half of forever have copies from "prior to Bible Support"   

 

But since the TWOT is still under copyright, it is not legal to distribute them, nor would having the module do you much good since, as you pointed out TWOT has a different numbering system.   

 

The old BTSCTMV  dictionary (is it still available) references the number in the definitions the Hebrew listings.  

 

Here is an example from the BTSCTMV:

 

- Original: אב
- Transliteration: 'eb (Aramaic)
- Phonetic: abe
- Definition: 
1. fruit, fresh, young, greening 
- Origin: corresponding to H3
- TWOT entry: 2554
- Part(s) of speech: Noun Masculine 
 
- Strong's: (Chaldee); corresponding to H3: - fruit. 
Total KJV Occurrences: 3 
 • fruit, 3
 Dan_4:12; Dan_4:14; Dan_4:21 
 
Notice the TWOT Reference?  2554 
 
Here is that listing:
 
2554 - 'eb
 
Aramaic Word: 'eb
Strong's Cross Reference: 4
Definition: (Dan_4:9; Dan_4:11; Dan_4:18, 'inbeh its fruit ). See Hebrew no. 1a.
*********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
 
BTW the listing for 0002 is quite extensive and states that there is no Strongs reference number exactly corresponding to TWOT 0002 (let's see if I can do some plain and fancy cut and paste).  The A B C D references are TMV references since 'abad is a verb 
0002 - 'abad
 
Hebrew Word: 'abad
Strong's Cross Reference: None
Definition: Perish, be destroyed; Piel and Hiphil destroy.
 
Derivative TWOT Number: 2a
Derivative Transliteration: 'obed
Derivative Strong's Cross Reference: None
Derivative Definition: destruction (Num_24:20; Num_24:24 only)
 
Derivative TWOT Number: 2b
Derivative Transliteration: 'abeda
Derivative Strong's Cross Reference: None
Derivative Definition: lost thing (e.g. Deu_22:3; Exo_22:8)
 
Derivative TWOT Number: 2c
Derivative Transliteration: 'abdan
Derivative Strong's Cross Reference: None
Derivative Definition: destruction (Est_8:6; Est_9:5)
 
Derivative TWOT Number: 2d
Derivative Transliteration: 'abaddon
Derivative Strong's Cross Reference: None
Derivative Definition: destruction, ruin, Abaddon
 
The verb 'abad is a common word for to die, or, in any case of things, reputation, etc., to pass away. (The cognates in Akkadian, Arabic, and Ugaritic express similar ideas.) In Piel and Hiphil it is used transitively in the sense of kill or break down (houses, idols, kingdoms). Egypt was destroyed (Exo_10:7; KJV,NASB; "ruined," RSV, NIV) though Pharaoh would not admit it. Joshua warned that if Israel sinned they would soon perish from the land (Jos_23:16). Jonah's gourd came up in a night and perished in a night (Jon_4:10). The foolish and senseless people perish (Psa_49:10 [H 11]). The man without understanding will soon perish like the beasts (Psa_49:20 [H 21]).
 
Probably the main theological question about this root is whether it refers merely to physical death or also eternal punishment. It is not an easy question. Obviously the word usually refers to some great loss, in most cases death. Esther's famous self-dedication, "If I perish, I perish" (Est_4:16), had her self sacrificing death in view only of that.
 
The verses that may look beyond the grave to further affliction for the wicked may be listed: Psa_49:10 [H 11]; (cf. Psa_49:12; Psa_49:20 [H 13] [H 21]); Psa_73:27 (cf. Psa_73:18-19); Psa_83:17 [H 18]; Pro_10:28; Pro_11:7 (cf. Pro_24:20); and Eze_28:16. These verses, like many others, can be interpreted to refer only to death of the body. But they are in a context of consideration of the hereafter. One's conclusion will doubtless be influenced by general considerations. If the OT "has no belief in any life beyond the grave worthy of the name," S N. Snaith says (DIOT, p. 89), then these verses will not be pressed to speak of eternal destruction of the wicked. But if immorality is found repeatedly in Psalms, Proverbs, etc. as M. Dahood argues, then they may (See Psalms, III, in AB, pp. xli-lii and Smick, E. B., in Bibliography).
 
Psalms_49 and Psalms_73 are frequently cited as referring to a future life. Psa_49:15 [H 16] uses the significant phrase "he will take me," the verb used for Elijah's translation to heaven and also used in Psa_73:24, "take me to glory." It is not far-fetched therefore to think that like "perish," ('abad or dama II q.v.), or "their tombs their houses forever" or "decay in the grave" (NIV) or "death will feed on them" may well refer to everlasting destruction. Psa_83:17 [H 18] is perhaps not as clear as the others, but the emphasis on the total overthrow of the wicked is impressive. Eze_28:16, if it refers as many think to Satan who inspired the prince of Tyre, does not bear on the punishment of the wicked, but Satan himself. He who once walked in the holy mountain of God, in the midst of the stones of fire will be destroyed ('abad) and in the process removed from (min) the mountain of God and the stones of fire. It sounds like eternal punishment.
 
'abaddon. Destruction, Abaddon. This word is translated in Rev_9:11 and used as the Hebrew name of the Devil, called in Greek Apollyon. This usage is not identical with the OT usage, but is an interesting commentary on it. The word is used six times in the OT. Twice it is in parallel with sheol (q.v.), (Pro_15:11; Pro_27:20) and once with qeber "grave" (Psa_88:11 [H 12]). The sixth time (Job_31:12) the word stands alone. It is obvious that the word refers to the destruction of the grave, but the contexts are not clear enough to prove that it refers to eternal destruction. The passages in Job and Proverbs are poetic personifications and do not clearly refer to sinners more than to the righteous. Psalms_88 refers to the troubles of the Psalmist and the though it is highly poetic, can hardly be referred to a place of torment. On such matters other passages must also be consulted (e.g. Job_27:13-23; Isa_66:22-24). Bibliography: Heidel, A., "Death and the Afterlife," in The Gilgamesh Epic, 2d ed., Univ. of Chicago, 1949, pp. 137-223. Harris, R.L., Man-God's Eternal Creation, Moody, 1971, pp.162-177. Smick, E. B., "The Bearing of New Philological Data on the subjects of Resurrection and Immortality in the OT," WTJ 21:1, pp. 12-21. R.L.H.
 

 

 
 
 
 

 


Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, (Jeremiah 9:23-24a)
 

"Defenders of the faith are inclined to be bitter until they learn to walk in the light of the Lord. When you have learned to walk in the light of the Lord, bitterness and contention are impossible." --Oswald Chambers, in Biblical Psychology from The Quotable Oswald Chambers.

 

 

 





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