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#21 Eliran Wong

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 02:49 AM

update:

- MySword team will take the files for official downloads through built-in downloader.
- Rick, creator of eSword, will make the files official after "a couple of months"

in this case, I won't post files here at biblesupport.com to avoid duplication.

early adopters may find my latest files at https://github.com/eliranwong

thanks for you interested. I had un-followed this topic. You may PM me if any further enquiries.

Edited by Eliran Wong, 31 January 2017 - 03:20 AM.


#22 Gary Timm

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 10:37 AM

update: e-Sword modules temporarily removed from biblesupport.com , needs further adjustment to avoid confusion with normal Strong's no. ... you may keep an eye on https://github.com/eliranwong , where you may find my latest files ... will post to biblesupport.com once tested ...

 

Eliran...

 

Sorry for not understanding, and maybe I missed something along the way, but what is the confusion between your files and the normal Strong's? Are there major differences between them?

 

By the way, thanks for your dedicated effort... and keep up the good work!! There are many of us out here who enjoy your modules immensely!



#23 Katoog

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 11:27 AM

Eliran...

 

Sorry for not understanding, and maybe I missed something along the way, but what is the confusion between your files and the normal Strong's? Are there major differences between them?

 

Strongs are root based alphabetic. But this system is root based and starting from Gen 1:1

 

 

(read from left to right)

Gen 1:1  בְּH1N118רֵאשִׁ֖יתH2N144 בָּרָ֣אH3N610 אֱלֹהִ֑יםH4N169 אֵ֥תH5N118 הַH6N90שָּׁמַ֖יִםH7N169 וְH8N91אֵ֥תH5N118 הָH6N90אָֽרֶץH9N226׃

 

The problem was that the H is linked to the Hebrew Strong lexicons or dictionaries.

 

From textual criticism viewpoint have I rather a system that ignores vowel-points so that מטה mı̂ṭṭāh, “bed.” מטה maṭṭeh “staff.” are in the same number for Gen 47:31


Edited by Katoog, 31 January 2017 - 11:48 AM.

Restored Holy Bible(9.0) and the Restored Textus Receptus

http://rhb.altervista.org/homepage.htm


#24 Gary Timm

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 03:48 PM

Thanks for clarifying this. I understand, and completely agree with this philosophy!



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Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:08 PM



Thanks for clarifying this. I understand, and completely agree with this philosophy!

And the Jews will disagree. I just had to say that :D for no other reason than it just was there to say ;).

 

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#26 Eliran Wong

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:21 PM

Eliran...

 

Sorry for not understanding, and maybe I missed something along the way, but what is the confusion between your files and the normal Strong's? Are there major differences between them?

 

By the way, thanks for your dedicated effort... and keep up the good work!! There are many of us out here who enjoy your modules immensely!

That's an old problem.  It had completely been solved.  New fixed files had been uploaded to https://github.com/e.../master/e-Sword

 

new implementation as follows:

3 kinds of links available in new files:

 

"R" follows by numbers (from R1 to R9236) - this set are arranged according to 9236 Hebrew lexemes in ETCBC database (edit ... not only handles same spellings but different meanings, also differentiate Hebrew words from Aramaic words)

"M" follows by numbers (from N1 to N641) - this set gives you Hebrew morphology based on ETCBC database

"H" follows by numbers (from H1 to H8674 & from H9001 to H9006) H1-H8674 are ordinary Strong's numbers, H9001-H9006 are prepositions/conjunctions/particles, which are not specified in Strong's numbers system.

 

Remarks: The new files are running very good in Mac e-Sword X, but I am not sure about PC.  According to Jon's comments, it seems to me that the file behaves differently in PC.  I had already emailed Rick about this.


Edited by Eliran Wong, 31 January 2017 - 06:32 PM.


#27 Eliran Wong

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:28 PM

Strongs are root based alphabetic. But this system is root based and starting from Gen 1:1

 

 

(read from left to right)

Gen 1:1  בְּH1N118רֵאשִׁ֖יתH2N144 בָּרָ֣אH3N610 אֱלֹהִ֑יםH4N169 אֵ֥תH5N118 הַH6N90שָּׁמַ֖יִםH7N169 וְH8N91אֵ֥תH5N118 הָH6N90אָֽרֶץH9N226׃

 

The problem was that the H is linked to the Hebrew Strong lexicons or dictionaries.

Hi Katoog, thanks for explaining the issue.  It seems you managed to download those old files, though I removed shortly after I uploaded.  Please note that this old problem had been corrected.  new screenshots here for your reference.  Thanks for your interests.  welcomes corrections if you find any.  Please also note the potential problem in PC version I mentioned just above.  Screenshots were taken from my Mac.  Eliran 

 

edit ... you may find these corrected files at https://github.com/e.../master/e-Sword

 

edit ... may I express my disagreement on removing vowels for your idea of "textual criticism viewpoint" ... with that said, you may still find an option for removing vowels in MySword collection available at https://github.com/e.../master/MySword

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Edited by Eliran Wong, 31 January 2017 - 06:36 PM.


#28 Eliran Wong

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 02:19 AM

update: MySword modules are now available for downloading through built-in downloader ... please locate it in interlinear section.

Thank you MySword team for hosting the files.

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#29 Eliran Wong

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 05:47 AM

rmac (MySword) dictionary corrected and uploaded to: https://github.com/e.../master/MySword

 

changes: entries on Hebrew morphology M001-M099 changed to M1-M99, aligning with tags in bible module

 

Thanks Eduardo Barrientos for reporting the issue.

 

Blessings,

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#30 Eliran Wong

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 12:22 PM

eSword files taken away from https://github.com/eliranwong temporarily ... working on adjustments for PC version of e-Sword






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