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#1 bjoleniacz

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 01:36 AM

Hello,

I am very interesting in using the Greek NT INT+ Interlinear Bible Module to improve my Greek.  However, even with all other windows minimized, the Bible verses (divided up into one box for each word) still extend well off the page.  There is no horizontal scrollbar to view the off-screen text, and highlighting the text beyond the left boundary doesn't bring it into view.  I am out of ideas.

Thanks!

Brian



#2 APsit190

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 08:31 PM



Hello,

I am very interesting in using the Greek NT INT+ Interlinear Bible Module to improve my Greek.  However, even with all other windows minimized, the Bible verses (divided up into one box for each word) still extend well off the page.  There is no horizontal scrollbar to view the off-screen text, and highlighting the text beyond the left boundary doesn't bring it into view.  I am out of ideas.

Thanks!

Brian

Hi Brian,

The reason that one will not see a horizontal scroll bar in the Bible Window, is because one hasn't been put in there at the design time of e-Sword.

 

If you look at the Properties window in Visual Studio (see attached Screenshot as an example) you will notice that in order for scroll bars have to be set to appear when required, or forced to show at all times.

 

Now, I know that Rick Meyers uses Visual Studio, because Visual Basic is one of the programming languages (which he wrote e-Sword in) in the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) and it has the same type of properties for the Controls as all of the programming languages in this program. And bearing that in mind, Rick just didn't set the scroll bar properties to show a horizontal one.

 

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot ... as far as I am aware, e-Sword never had a horizontal scroll bar in the Bible Window.

 

I hope this information is helpful to you.

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:06 PM

eSword 10.4 has horizontal scroll bar in Parallel mode

 

Parallel mode is irrelevant to this topic

 

The Bible window should adjust automatically I will download the module and see if I can repeat your problem in bible window


Edited by DSaw, 26 November 2016 - 10:19 PM.

May God change our hearts to what the truth is

2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Rom_9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

2Ti 2:24-25  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 
 

 

 


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:13 PM

Hello,

I am very interesting in using the Greek NT INT+ Interlinear Bible Module to improve my Greek.  However, even with all other windows minimized, the Bible verses (divided up into one box for each word) still extend well off the page.  There is no horizontal scrollbar to view the off-screen text, and highlighting the text beyond the left boundary doesn't bring it into view.  I am out of ideas.

Thanks!

Brian

can you give me a link to the module 


May God change our hearts to what the truth is

2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Rom_9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

2Ti 2:24-25  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 
 

 

 


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Posted 27 November 2016 - 03:01 AM

The offending module is an official download.

 

 

The problem is; if Rick sets the property to make the window horizontal scroll, then this will apply to all modules and the text would no longer wrap for any module. How annoying would that be!!

 

The issue is that he can't get tables to wrap.

 

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 02:41 PM



The offending module is an official download.

 

 

The problem is; if Rick sets the property to make the window horizontal scroll, then this will apply to all modules and the text would no longer wrap for any module. How annoying would that be!!

 

The issue is that he can't get tables to wrap.

 

Jon

Hi Jon,

Yep, that is true, and can't argue with that. :D

 

OK, when it comes to textboxes as such, whether its the plain textbox or the RTtextbox (Rich Text textbox irrespective of the brand)  text will wrap if the property has been set at design time. However, when it comes to creating tables and inserting objects, i.e., spreadsheet data into the RTtextbox,  then the wrapping capabilities fly out of the proverbial window or is booted out of the proverbial backdoor. And the reason for this is that these objects are static or fixed/rigid (or whatever term one wants to use). Text and numerals are flexible thus giving them the wrappable properties, just like paper or cling wrap. As where objects which require a fixed sized area, such as tables, graphics, spreadsheet data are inflexible in the same way as a wooden board is, and that is what the situation is with that, ummm, offending resource.

 

Having said all of that, the only bit that's incorrect in your comment is:


if Rick sets the property to make the window horizontal scroll, then this will apply to all modules and the text would no longer wrap for any module

 

The Horizontal scroll bar doesn't affect the wrapping capabilities of the text itself in the rest of the resources. So that in itself isn't a problem as text wraps with or without the a horizontal scrollbar. So, with that said, when it comes to that beautiful offending resource, the fix to that is simply to have the Bible window open to full screen, and then suggest to Rick Meyers that he plonks in a horizontal scroll bar in the next version of e-Sword.

 

Great chin wagging with you on this, and trust you have a great day.

 

Blessings,

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Edited by APsit190, 28 November 2016 - 02:52 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 03:13 AM

 

The Horizontal scroll bar doesn't affect the wrapping capabilities of the text itself in the rest of the resources. So that in itself isn't a problem as text wraps with or without the a horizontal scrollbar. So, with that said, when it comes to that beautiful offending resource, the fix to that is simply to have the Bible window open to full screen, and then suggest to Rick Meyers that he plonks in a horizontal scroll bar in the next version of e-Sword.

 

 

As you noted wrap and horizontal scroll bar being visible, have independent settings. So I wonder if Rick would set a scroll bar just for specific resources i.e. (the badly made offending module ;) )



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Posted 31 January 2017 - 10:52 AM

Hello,

I am very interesting in using the Greek NT INT+ Interlinear Bible Module to improve my Greek.  However, even with all other windows minimized, the Bible verses (divided up into one box for each word) still extend well off the page.  There is no horizontal scrollbar to view the off-screen text, and highlighting the text beyond the left boundary doesn't bring it into view.  I am out of ideas.

Thanks!

Brian

 

I'm not sure why, but this module seems to work perfect on a Mac... the table extends and drops to the next line. Of course, this is no consolidation to those not owning a Mac.

 

Blessings,



#9 Eliran Wong

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:49 PM

the file (traditional interlinear view) was originally created for Mac users (sorry, I am now a Mac user), but I include an version of single-liner interlinear view for PC users as well at biblesupport.com

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 08:12 PM

I use both a PC and a Mac, so no harm here. Regardless... Mac, or no Mac, it's still a great module!! Thanks, Eliran!





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