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[APsit190]

Hi

about the kittle family , the father who did the old testament lexicon and the son who did the tdnt. Is it true that they hated the Jews and was connected to Hitler?
http://oneinmessiah....vilMenWoman.htm
What is the history or the story behind the authors of these lexicons?

 

 

I am well aware of the Kittel history, and perhaps more so than anyone else considering I am/was German. Also you don't realize that Kittel did his time for his participation in war crimes and was released.

 

However, the irrespective of what he had done, still does not make his work any less of value or for that matter make it "liberal" as it was asserted.

 

Moreover, from my understanding and reading, Kittel, as a result of his imprisonment, that after his release had officially renounced his Nazi beliefs. I think when it comes down to it, If a bloke repents of his wrong, God forgives him. We then have no right to hold anything against that person.

 

Blessings,

[DSaw]

I.d like to call to mind if we where to disregard or reject a persons work because of there past we would have to throw out the letters from Paul all the books of Moses let's see yea the book of psalms I 'm sure there are  other murders that have books in the bible

Edited by DSaw, 28 August 2014 - 08:39 AM.

[anh Mike]

 the 10 vol set TDNT.  TDNT abridged wz done by Bromiley who was conservative.  the 10 vol set TDNT has very lengthy articles and w. critical thought.  I have to use the word liberal because people do not understand critical scholarship.  liberal does not always mean unbelief but rejection of conservative views on scripture.  By all means if you want to use it use it. but it does contain greek and is techincal most of the time.  James Barr criticized the vol 1, blasting it presuppostionless theological claim and its careful word studies.  I hope I am clearer on the work.  I still say do your own word studies and check results w. dictionaries. In other words, the old saying is do not believe everything you read and hear.  Perphas I was too hard on the work.  I have found other ways around it.

 

"What is the history or the story behind the authors of these lexicons?"--Patchie, these are dictionaries like hastings not lexicons.

[exscentric]

What do you see as the difference between the two? 

 

Lexicon "a book containing an alphabetical arrangement of the words in a language and their definitions:DICTIONARY" Merriam-Webster

[Tim Butterfield]

What do you see as the difference between the two? 

 

Lexicon "a book containing an alphabetical arrangement of the words in a language and their definitions:DICTIONARY" Merriam-Webster

 

Merriam-Webster lists Dictionary as a synonym as with all synonyms the meaning is similar, but not identical.  (That is why it is blue)  It also lists as synonyms  repertoire and  inventory

 

 

Dictionary.com has a more complete definition:

http://dictionary.re.../browse/lexicon

 

1.a wordbook or dictionary, especially of Greek, Latin, or Hebrew.

 

2.the vocabulary of a particular language, field, social class, person, etc.

 

3.inventory or record:

unparalleled in the lexicon of human relations.

 

4.Linguistics.

1. the total inventory of morphemes in a given language.
2. the inventory of base morphemes plus their combinations with derivational morphemes.

 

Oxford English Dictionary defines it as:

http://www.oxforddic...english/lexicon lexicon

Syllabification: lex·i·con

Pronunciation: /ˈleksiˌkän

 

, ˈleksiˌkən

 

/

noun (plural lexicons or lexica /-kə/)

1The vocabulary of a person, language, or branch of knowledge: the size of the English lexicon

More example sentences

1.1A dictionary, especially of Greek, Hebrew, Syriac, or Arabic: a Greek-Latin lexicon

[APsit190]

I have to use the word liberal because people do not understand critical scholarship.

 

Hi Mike,

Actually you may just quite surprised of just how many people on this board are theologically astute, and just may find your remark to be quite condescending. Just a tad of advice here for you.

 

By all means if you want to use it use it. but it does contain greek and is techincal most of the time.

 

 

Well, that isn't an issue for me as I have ways I can work around that. The technicality of it is also not a real issue as there are commentaries available here, which I use,  that is loaded with Greek, Hebrew, and Latin, and perhaps just as equally technical as the TDNT.

 

I still say do your own word studies and check results w. dictionaries. In other words, the old saying is do not believe everything you read and hear.

 

Well, actually that is exactly what I do. And  testing is all part and parcel of it. With that said, the TDNT as with all the resources I have comes into that regime. Moreover, when it comes to exegetical studies, the TDNT, as with the TWOT, the BDAG, alongside with the other resources I have would be all part of armory for really great Bible study. If you have a look at the work I've done in my studies of Ephesians (starting from Pt 1), you will see where the wealth of information I've shared came from.

 

Blessings,

[Cosmin]

I would like this books to be available in E-sword

Edwin W.Rice commentaries ,

Biblical Encyclopedia and Museum,15 vol.

Peoples Commentary - George Whitfield Clark

Marcus Dods books.

F.E.Mersh  books with bible studies.

 

 

 

[john6184]

I would like to see a Hebrew Study Bible version which is compatible with an IPad.  Might that be possible?

 

[Cosmin]

International Critical commentary Old Testament.

The NT version is already made.But it must be updated and maybe united in one single commentary with this one.

 

https://www.logos.co...y-old-testament

[RochelleRL]

I would like to have e-Sword available on my iPad.