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#1 timothyng

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

It is indeed a big credit & a big thank you for all of you who created the e sword modules
I have using alot of the modules like Bibles/commentaries /dictionaries etc with much ease
However I am some difficulties in reading topx files as I have to scroll down to locate a file .It is not easy as I do have alot of files(thanks to your guys who created the modules)
Is there a short cut ?May I am missing some here?
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#2 Mike_S

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:27 AM

Hi timothyng :)

I think (IMO) one of the biggest issues with e-Sword is the resource location limitations, the inability to make use of multiple folders, or select specific folders, ... e-Sword essentially expects to find certain resources in a single location, this puts hundreds of files in a single directory. Once you make a change, this is the new 'default' location until you change again.

One option if viewing the .topx files in the e-Sword Reference Library is to use the Filter Titles feature. You can find the entry box to the right of the Titles drop down. Depending on how the .topx files are named you may get files in your list that you weren't after, they simply had the same keyword, narrowing the search may help. To get all your files back in the list - clear the box and hit 'Filter Titles' (filter icon) again.

I hope one day I can move the resources to specific folders (of my choice) and have e-Sword detect them either by closing snd restarting e-Sword or simply hitting a 'ReScan' button to apply my new resources. I (personally) would like to have each 'type' or 'author' in single folders:

\e-Sword\Resources
.....................\bblx
.....................\cmtx
.....................\dctx
.....................\bunyan
.....................\calvin
.....................\luther
.....................\warfiled

HTH :)
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:45 AM

Hi timothyng :)

I think (IMO) one of the biggest issues with e-Sword is the resource location limitations, the inability to make use of multiple folders, or select specific folders, ... e-Sword essentially expects to find certain resources in a single location, this puts hundreds of files in a single directory. Once you make a change, this is the new 'default' location until you change again.

\e-Sword\Resources
.....................\bblx
.....................\cmtx
.....................\dctx
.....................\bunyan
.....................\calvin
.....................\luther
.....................\warfiled

HTH :)


Interesting thought. Another way that would work is to have a tabbed interface in the Reference Library window - kind of like FireFox browser uses. Then, when you open up the Reference Library window you could have a tab for everything with Warfield, or Luther, or Preaching, etc. I would kind of imagine it to be like a bookshelf in your own library. Histories on one shelf, devotional books on another, Baptists on another shelf - etc.

This would be especially helptful if the user could name the tabs, and then allocate which resouces resided under each tab.

I can see also how this might work with commentaries and bibles - although I think the topic modules would be the greatest beneficiary of this feature - but I'm a little biased! :) I really love all the new topic modules - especially the histories.

Edited by LarryG, 03 November 2012 - 05:52 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:55 AM

@LarryG

Agreed, tabs are nice Too! I think both could be easily implemented, the code (depending on the tool used) is likely at a forum, most languages have reusable sections of code for common features, VS, Python, a few tweaks specific to e-Sword... I might be over-simplifying it but e-Sword does have some strange limitations, especially for v10.x, again, JMO :)
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:01 AM

@ Mike_S

You should write up the suggestion and send it off to Rick Meyers - he might incorporate it into the next eSword update. I think there's something about messing with the software itself that we agreed to. I might be wrong about that. I'm just a button pusher - that's why the tabbed interface attracts me. Everything would be available, but already sorted for ready-use. I wouldn't have to be constantly re-booting eSword to have access to a resource - it would already be there. :) This would be especially nice if a person (like myself) is wont to follow 'rabbit trails' in books and scripture.

There is one problem though - or - a potential problem. I have discovered for myself that eSword slows down when I have a lot of topic modules loaded in the program folder. I have learned to keep my topic module number under 100 books - and I'm running Win7 64 with an i5 CPU. ESword just boggs down if I have to many resources available. I've learned to live with it over the years - it's better than Win XP was!

I already know a lot of people would load their eSword program down with every module they had, then complain because the program was slow! LOL

Edited by LarryG, 03 November 2012 - 06:11 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:52 PM

Mercy. I have 121 topx files and over 300 refx files....where ever could I put ll those tabs and still have room left on the screen, and the font size would be so small as to be unreadable when I went looking for the right one. I have to ruthlessly edit the resources (bblx, cmtx and dctx) I now display... (I have over 100 of each of those), and even at that I only open one resource window t time so I can read the tabs.

The filtering idea is doable....I hadn't thought of that.
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 01:29 PM

Mercy. I have 121 topx files and over 300 refx files....where ever could I put ll those tabs and still have room left on the screen, and the font size would be so small as to be unreadable when I went looking for the right one. I have to ruthlessly edit the resources (bblx, cmtx and dctx) I now display... (I have over 100 of each of those), and even at that I only open one resource window t time so I can read the tabs.

The filtering idea is doable....I hadn't thought of that.


Perhaps I wasn't making myself clear - not unusual. What I was trying to say is to put all of one type of topics under one tab, and then label that tab. Each time I push a tab, the font would remain the same - I would just have a different selection of books to choose from. They could be all of one author, or all of one general type (histories, biographies, sermons, etc.).

Choosing one tab for each book would totally defeat the purpose of a tabular system. On my browser I have folders containing bookbarks - one folder for Bible bookmarks, another for tech news, another for book sites, etc. Tabs within the Reference Library window could work the same way.

Edited by LarryG, 03 November 2012 - 01:31 PM.


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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

Perhaps I wasn't making myself clear - not unusual. What I was trying to say is to put all of one type of topics under one tab, and then label that tab. Each time I push a tab, the font would remain the same - I would just have a different selection of books to choose from.


Hi Larry,
I like the concept you propose, but the only way that would effectively work in e-Sword is in the same way that Bible, Commentary, and Dictionary views can be tabbed. When pulling a Bible view over, say, a Dictionary view (window) the two views (windows) will be tabbed. Outside of that I Don't know how else it would work.

An issue or problem I see, is that when it comes to subject/topic matter, as in defining them, how would one determine what topic or subject that book would belong to? I know if something is classed as Systematic Theology because it says so, or it deals Hermeneutics (Exegesis and etc) because its got that word "Interpretation" in the title or some thing like that. But other resources could be more difficult to define what subject matter it belongs to.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:34 PM

I already know a lot of people would load their eSword program down with every module they had, then complain because the program was slow! LOL


Hi Larry,
Not me mate... I'm just waiting to see when I can crash e-Sword or blow my computer up. Trying to do a Jonathon Blake trick here.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

Hi Larry,
I like the concept you propose, but the only way that would effectively work in e-Sword is in the same way that Bible, Commentary, and Dictionary views can be tabbed. When pulling a Bible view over, say, a Dictionary view (window) the two views (windows) will be tabbed. Outside of that I Don't know how else it would work.

An issue or problem I see, is that when it comes to subject/topic matter, as in defining them, how would one determine what topic or subject that book would belong to?

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Hi Stephen,

What I had imagined was strictly for the Reference Library window - an independant drop-down window right now. As you know, when you open the Reference Library window a drop down menu for the topic and reference modules you have loaded is presented.

My thoughts were to have tabs on the Reference Library window itself. Then, as the user applies a name to a tab, they could add resources to that tab. The resources would show when the drop down menu was view within the tab - and only those resources.

Hence, I could have a tab named FB MEYER. As I opened the drop down menu under that tab it would show all of Meyers works. Also, this is the only place they would show up. Then, perhaps I would want to have a tab labled BIOGRAPHIES. Then, after accessing that tab, the drop down menu would show different biographies. Each tab would retain the works placed in them whenever eSword would shut down - open on the section I left the text at. Think of a book left open, ready to be picked up and read again. The tabs could be used to compare, or read simultaneously two + books by the same author - just put each book in a seperate tab, and never lose your place while reading. OR, the tabs could be set up to hold topic books alphabetically. Tab #1 (A-D), Tab #2 (E-J), etc. There is just a lot of organizational things a person could do with a tabbed function added to the Reference Library window - especially if it's use was defined by the user.

With printed materials I am often reading several books at the same time - it's always been that way. This would work the same way - different books open, but on different tabs. We now have several of the smaller commentaries in topic format. A person could follow a commentary in topic format at the same time they were reading another text. I think the biggest advantage is that instead of scrolling through a LONG list of texts searching for the right book, it would already be loaded in a tab. Think of a bookshelf organized. Everyone, except librarians, organize their bookshelves differently - that's why the user would define the tab names and what went into each tab drop down menu.

How this would work for either the dictionaries or the commentaries - I don't know. I seldom use those functions of eSword at the same time I use the Reference Libary window.

Edited by LarryG, 05 November 2012 - 05:27 AM.




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