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[Ed Franklin]

Typically, using normal user rights adds a layer of security that is not present when running with Admin rights. Given the relative ease with which admin rights can be aquired, I think that that increase is more illusionary --- security theatre --- than actual. Nonetheless, I'd still recommend running everything with normal user rights, or less rights, than with admin rights.

jonathon

At the risk of seeming obtuse (ok, I admit it; I am obtuse...lol)...You say "do it anyway, though the security is mostly illusory"....Why?

Is there a risk of being "hacked" from some remote location? I'm the only one here who has access to the computer....so, might I do something stupid by accident? I just don't have the grasp of this technology needed to understand the perils.....

[jonathon]

.You say "do it anyway, though the security is mostly illusory"....Why?

The majority of attacks are from script kiddies, and they tend to be pretty stupid.
(As an example, they are perfectly happy to send their attack bots to 127.0.0.1, when told that that is the IP address of the person that they annoyed with, and thus the computer they wish to hack into.)

Even "sophisticated malware" can contain bugs. One example being one of the early worms for Windows that contained a bug that prevented it from gaining admin rights on the system it was on, but it could gain admin rights on other Windows systems.

jonathon

[Josh Bond]

Thank you.

I imagine that it's clear from all my posts that I know virtually nothing about the programming, etc, involved here, so with that in mind, please excuse me for asking: What difference does it make that I run e-Sword as Administrator?...Is there a danger? Is there a reason that running it with normal user rights is preferable?

I disagree with others and believe you should be the administrator of your PC. In your case, HP had your new computer locked down so tight that a program could not even ask for administrative rights. Having the computer so locked down stops few malicious software (viruses, malware, script kiddies) anyway.

If it did, then why do you need anti-virus? I believe you did the right thing. And if you feel you need protection, get Zone Alarm's free firewall and anti-virus software like AVG (or more if you want to pay for something).

But the biggest safety measures you can take are just common sense, by staying away from high danger areas of the internet (pornography and warez/pirated software), file sharing sites/downloads, not opening email attachments from people you do not know (and probably not opening them if you do know them--I delete all "funny/joke" email attachments), resisting the urge to install "cool" browser toolbars, resisting the urge to install "cool" smiley faces or pet dogs or whatever the fads are, etc. None of those are good. Ever. But some people just have real problems with judgement on downloading and installing to their PC. Thus, anti-virus is born. I don't view a lack of permissions as much of an impediment to the many bad things out there.

But at least now you can run e-Sword. You can research this issue on the internet to find out if you can lock the PC back down and find some compromise way of dealing with the issue. All of my PC's run as administrator (with a prompt when requested by a program to make an administrative change). The whole "security" system Microsoft has created is tremendously confusing for most people and they're left not being able to run their programs.

[journey]

Brother Ed,

I agree with Josh Bond completely. I would change the permissions so that I could use my own computer. I could understand some of the extra permissions security if you were running a network with multiple users, but in this case - you are the user and should be the administrator of your own computer. You shouldn't have to go through a bunch of steps to use programs on your own computer. Just my two cents worth.

[Ed Franklin]

A couple of ways of obtaining Logos for less than MSRP:

• ....Gratis, to qualifying pastors. Simply saying "I do 'x' ministry", where 'x' is the type of ministry does not suffice. (I think "prison chaplin" is the qualifying ministry. E-Mail Bob Pritchett for details/corrections.)

jonathon

Just for the record here, in case someone else reads this and gets their hopes up: I did write to Logos and presented my situation. Today I got a response quoting me the "special price just for you".....of exactly what's on their web site (the current 15% discount on each program) Which is fine by me.....not that I might not have gone for a low-end program at a substantial discount, but this is not "sour grapes" There's just no "free lunch"......

[jonathon]

but this is not "sour grapes" There's just no "free lunch"......

I couldn't remember which type of ministry/chaplaincy that program was for.
All I remember is that it had some very specific criteria.

They may have dropped that program.

jonathon

[Ed Franklin]

They may have dropped that program.

jonathon

apparently so.....There was not a hint in the communications I had. No problem, however, and I appreciate your suggestion. Since my e-Sword is "well" I am well

[journey]

I have some family members with Logos. Personally, I prefer e-Sword over Logos. Logos charges for everything, even things that should be free.

[Ed Franklin]

I have some family members with Logos. Personally, I prefer e-Sword over Logos. Logos charges for everything, even things that should be free.

Obviously many folks feel it's "worth the money"--I'm not one of them I just don't need all that language stuff for one thing....I have thousands of books (which I prefer over e-reading).....and I love e-Sword! which I have used from early days.

[BaptizedBeliever]

My biggest problem with Logos is not that they charge for their modules. It's that they charge SO MUCH for their modules. And even the public domain ones are just as expensive (if not moreso) than buying a brand-new hardcopy of the same resource. But then again, that's why some of these book publishers love doing business with them...$$$$$

I'm getting off my soapbox before I go on a rant...