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#1 GamerRev3

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 05:58 PM

Hi all! Let's try this again. Stupid internet went out right when I was trying to post this the first time! Grr!

 

I am trying to get my bible mods to show up on ios version of e-sword. I have an ipad pro. (Super sweet device. Love it!) I have converted the mods to .bbli as per what I found already on the interwebs. I still can not get some of them to show up, however. I have attempted to swap them over to ipad using my gmail account. I use gmail app on my ipad for this as well. What am I missing and what am I doing wrong?



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Posted 03 March 2023 - 07:02 PM

What am I missing and what am I doing wrong?

Simple, you're using an iPad. What else?!

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 07:04 PM

Hi all! Let's try this again. Stupid internet went out right when I was trying to post this the first time! Grr!

 

I am trying to get my bible mods to show up on ios version of e-sword. I have an ipad pro. (Super sweet device. Love it!) I have converted the mods to .bbli as per what I found already on the interwebs. I still can not get some of them to show up, however. I have attempted to swap them over to ipad using my gmail account. I use gmail app on my ipad for this as well. What am I missing and what am I doing wrong?

The best method to upload them to iCloud and then download them from iCloud on to your iPad



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Posted 03 March 2023 - 07:15 PM

It should also be known that if you try to send modules that have an abbreviation and name of an official module, they will never show up. I found this out by sending certain modules to my iOS device that I made for my own use, but which normally you have to buy. For example, if you send the NKJV, it won't show up. I don't know if this is the case with you, but it's worth mentioning.

 

The only workaround that I could find was to alter the abbreviations and names of such modules, such as, to continue the example above, of renaming the module to something like "NKIU" and "N K1ng James Vers10n." This requires the use of an SQLite Browser, but it's really not that hard to do. You could also use "e-Sword Tab Renamer" if you are using Windows.

 

Again, I don't know if this is the problem you are having, but thought it would be worth mentioning.



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Posted 03 March 2023 - 08:02 PM

It should also be known that if you try to send modules that have an abbreviation and name of an official module, they will never show up. I found this out by sending certain modules to my iOS device that I made for my own use, but which normally you have to buy. For example, if you send the NKJV, it won't show up. I don't know if this is the case with you, but it's worth mentioning.

 

The only workaround that I could find was to alter the abbreviations and names of such modules, such as, to continue the example above, of renaming the module to something like "NKIU" and "N K1ng James Vers10n." This requires the use of an SQLite Browser, but it's really not that hard to do. You could also use "e-Sword Tab Renamer" if you are using Windows.

 

Again, I don't know if this is the problem you are having, but thought it would be worth mentioning.

Just as a matter of interest, when it comes to adding resources to either e-Sword LT or HT, in the Menu, do you have a Import menu item?


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Posted 03 March 2023 - 11:04 PM

It should also be known that if you try to send modules that have an abbreviation and name of an official module, they will never show up. I found this out by sending certain modules to my iOS device that I made for my own use, but which normally you have to buy. For example, if you send the NKJV, it won't show up. I don't know if this is the case with you, but it's worth mentioning.

 

The only workaround that I could find was to alter the abbreviations and names of such modules, such as, to continue the example above, of renaming the module to something like "NKIU" and "N K1ng James Vers10n." This requires the use of an SQLite Browser, but it's really not that hard to do. You could also use "e-Sword Tab Renamer" if you are using Windows.

 

Again, I don't know if this is the problem you are having, but thought it would be worth mentioning.

 

What you described is EXACTLY what I needed to do to get everything showing now. Everything is perfectly fine and I can see all the mods I had on other devices. Thanks so much! You've been a big help!



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Posted 04 March 2023 - 11:20 AM

Just as a matter of interest, when it comes to adding resources to either e-Sword LT or HT, in the Menu, do you have a Import menu item?

 

No, there is no import menu item in e-Sword LT (and I assume in HD either—I don't own an iPad). If you open an e-Sword resource file in iOS, whether in the file system or from an email or from AirDrop, it will automatically open and import into e-Sword. The same goes for macOS—if you double click an e-Sword file in the Finder (the macOS equivalent of Windows Explorer) it will automatically open the file in e-Sword X and import the file into the proper location and it will show up right away among your installed resources.



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Posted 05 March 2023 - 05:28 PM

No, there is no import menu item in e-Sword LT (and I assume in HD either—I don't own an iPad). If you open an e-Sword resource file in iOS, whether in the file system or from an email or from AirDrop, it will automatically open and import into e-Sword. The same goes for macOS—if you double click an e-Sword file in the Finder (the macOS equivalent of Windows Explorer) it will automatically open the file in e-Sword X and import the file into the proper location and it will show up right away among your installed resources.

When I see stuff like this, simplicity has gone out of the window (excuse the pun), quite seriously, and to be honest, I'm glad I don't have an iOS or a macOS device because seeing this, the mere complexity of adding resource files to the device is a real turn-off. I've gotta feel real sorry for you blokes. It appears to me that Apple just doesn't understand the KISS principle:

 

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Stupid

 

and in doing so makes things more complex and difficult than it really needs to be.

 

When e-Sword HT was initially released, I seriously considered getting an iPad, and even talked to a close friend about it. His advice to me was, Don't! And went into detail as to why not. So, I didn't. And seeing this sort of complexity that both iOS and macOS users have, I'm seriously glad I don't own any of them.

 

I am aware that Windows isn't all that crash hot, and the difficulties revolved around that, and the same goes with Android, the one thing about these Operating Systems is when it comes to file management of moving/copying files from one place to another, its just a case of select what you want, and Drag n Drop, and Hey Presto, you're done and dusted. Nothing complicated about it.

 

I don't know what Linux is like on PC, as I have never used it. That said, it would be interesting to hear what it is like to use in comparison to macOS, and also of what Android is like vs iOS, of which is either more intuitive or complex to use. So, if anyone wants to comment on that, it would be great to read.

 

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Posted 05 March 2023 - 06:22 PM

I must have made it sound more complicated than it is, but it's really quite simple. Double-clicking on an e-Sword file on the Mac is simpler than in Windows where you have to manually move the file to the right location (unless you use the third-party e-Sword Module Installer). And a resource opening up automatically in iOS and being added to e-Sword also seems pretty darn simple—simpler than an "Import" button. But anyway, it doesn't really matter: each to their own, right.

 

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Plus, I should add that whether e-Sword is simpler to use on one platform over another has nothing to do with the OS, but with how Rick Meyers programmed it. Neither Apple, nor Microsoft, nor Google have anything to do with that.

 

As to whether iOS or Android is easier to use, my personal opinion is that iOS is more intuitive (and I've used both). I also feel that macOS is more intuitive and simple than Windows (and again, I've used both). But that's just my opinion, and it isn't a slam against any particular operating system. I'm neither a Mac evangelist nor a Windows-basher. It's just a matter of personal preference. Live and let live, right?


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Posted 05 March 2023 - 11:53 PM

I must have made it sound more complicated than it is, but it's really quite simple. Double-clicking on an e-Sword file on the Mac is simpler than in Windows where you have to manually move the file to the right location (unless you use the third-party e-Sword Module Installer). And a resource opening up automatically in iOS and being added to e-Sword also seems pretty darn simple—simpler than an "Import" button. But anyway, it doesn't really matter: each to their own, right.

 

;)

 

Plus, I should add that whether e-Sword is simpler to use on one platform over another has nothing to do with the OS, but with how Rick Meyers programmed it. Neither Apple, nor Microsoft, nor Google have anything to do with that.

 

As to whether iOS or Android is easier to use, my personal opinion is that iOS is more intuitive (and I've used both). I also feel that macOS is more intuitive and simple than Windows (and again, I've used both). But that's just my opinion, and it isn't a slam against any particular operating system. I'm neither a Mac evangelist nor a Windows-basher. It's just a matter of personal preference. Live and let live, right?

Thanks for your response/reply.

 

I agree with you then it comes to which OS is better than the other, its gotta be what is better for the user, and so it really comes down to horses for courses kind of things. That said, if I could, I'd toss Windows in a heartbeat if I could find an OS that does better than that. However it sort of like comes down to simplicity vs complexity, and what is easier to remember. For instance, to identify drives (disks) used for PCs, nothing is easier than A, B, C, and etc., as where in Linux, and macOS and etc., its weird, just to say the least.

 

Then when it comes to program files, the executables are, well dead easy for Windows/DOS: exe for execute and com for command. That is just so easy. Linux, macOS and etc is a case of, ummm, yep, ahhh, and my head explodes. Other file types that the OS uses, e.g., dll, sys, that one are pretty much simple to understand

  • dll = dynamic link library are part of and use by a particular program.
  • sys = system used by the operating system both Windows and back in the day, DOS

With regard to Windows itself, the best versions by far, in my experience are:

  • Windows 98
  • Windows XP
  • Windows 10 (which I'm currently using

Worst Windows versions.

  • Windows 3.11 (using DOS 6.22)
  • Windows 95
  • Vista
  • Windows 8x
  • Windows 9 never happened.

What you see above is my experience Windows in total.

 

Of the best versions, my favorite has to be XP. It was the most reliable version I've used. Of the worst versions, the one that I hated and detested the most goes to Windows 8 and 8.1

 

Moreover, when it comes to Windows XP, that is when I met e-Sword (February/March 2004). And when it comes to e-Sword, I never used another Bible program. That was it for me. Fell head-over-heals in love with it, and never found a need to go elsewhere for a really decent Bible program. And that speaks volumes.

 

Well, that's it from me.

 

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Edited by APsit190, 05 March 2023 - 11:55 PM.

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