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[turnsouth]

Easy enough: http://www.biblesupp...e-1913-edition/

115,000+ entries apparently stretches the limits of e-Sword's capabilities—I notice a several second delay when switching from other dictionaries to this dictionary. Once in this dictionary, I noticed no delay when switching from entry to entry. The initial delay is because of the size of the dictionary and how e-Sword loads dictionary entries.

Thank-You. I see what you mean about the delay...still nice to have

[BigPaw]

Out of curiosity... could one save a Word Perfect file as a pdf, and then OCR it into a usable rtf file within Word?

I hope this is helpful:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/wptoword.html

[Josh Bond]

Still looking forMcClintock & Strong's Cyclopedia... it can't be that such a huge and rich collection, being out of copyright, isn't floating around somewhere for eSword. There are a few PDF's of the odd volume, but nothing complete.

I've got an abundance of Bibles, quite a variety of dictionaries, and a certain amount of commentaries now, but I'm still hungry.

I have the whole dictionary in clean text. The hebrew/greek fonts are rendered with a legacy font in PDF files. The text could be easily extracted from the PDF files. And the legacy fonts converted to unicode with the Galaxie Legacy Font to Unicode macro. I can eventually get to it, or maybe another module maker (who has MS Word) will take an interest in it and I can hand it off.

josh

The dictionary is split among 120 PDF files. So I took the first PDF file and wrote all the code necessary to automate a large part of it's conversion to e-Sword format. The resulting dictionary file is a sample proof of concept (similar to what I did with Lange's at first), but only for the first PDF file--which is the first 291 entries for the letter "A". (See Attached file).  cyclopedia.zip   1.39MB   18 downloads

The major thing I noticed is file size. With the images, this first of 120 files is over 3 megs...times 120 files roughly = 300 megabytes. I have real concerns about e-Sword technical ability to handle that size of a dictionary. e-Sword dictionaries consume a lot of memory (ram), and I just foresee massive problems for a number of people.

Without the images, the file size on this first file is 720k...times 120 files roughly = 100 megabytes of text. Now, that IS manageable. It would have some 31,000 entries and that's also manageable for e-Sword.

So I may make two versions of this resource for e-Sword: one with images and one without images.

I'll also make this resource for theWord with images (just one resource with images), as file size does not seem detrimental to its performance (and it lets me compress modules) so file size isn't as critical.

Josh

[RickB]

The dictionary is split among 120 PDF files. So I took the first PDF file and wrote all the code necessary to automate a large part of it's conversion to e-Sword format. The resulting dictionary file is a sample proof of concept (similar to what I did with Lange's at first), but only for the first PDF file--which is the first 291 entries for the letter "A". (See Attached file).  cyclopedia.zip   1.39MB   18 downloads

The major thing I noticed is file size. With the images, this first of 120 files is over 3 megs...times 120 files roughly = 300 megabytes. I have real concerns about e-Sword technical ability to handle that size of a dictionary. e-Sword dictionaries consume a lot of memory (ram), and I just foresee massive problems for a number of people.

Without the images, the file size on this first file is 720k...times 120 files roughly = 100 megabytes of text. Now, that IS manageable. It would have some 31,000 entries and that's also manageable for e-Sword.

So I may make two versions of this resource for e-Sword: one with images and one without images.

I'll also make this resource for theWord with images (just one resource with images), as file size does not seem detrimental to its performance (and it lets me compress modules) so file size isn't as critical.

Josh

I think that 2 separate modules would be super, as for one i am not as interested in the graphics as the text. Just my take
Rick

[APsit190]

So I may make two versions of this resource for e-Sword: one with images and one without images.

Hi Josh,
I think that doing something like that would really highlight the new capabilities of e-Sword. Moreover I also think that this would bring module creation to a standard never seen before, and in some respects would be appreciated by others.

You bringing this up reminds me of the cries that went out to Rick Meyers for e-Sword to be able to handle graphics (images), and of the comparisons that were made. If memory serves me correctly, at Yahoo's e-Sword group I read comments of those who didn't want to use e-Sword because it couldn't handle images. So when I look at this and see to where e-Sword is at now, I think that it makes perfect sense to include images where required.

Blessings,

[BigPaw]

So I may make two versions of this resource for e-Sword: one with images and one without images.

I'll also make this resource for theWord with images (just one resource with images), as file size does not seem detrimental to its performance (and it lets me compress modules) so file size isn't as critical.

Josh

This is amazing, I am really excited at the prospect of what this will open up for us. Thank you!!

If it would be helpful, I should be able to combine all of the 120 PDF's into just one PDF, or convert the PDF's to Word (doc, or docx) format, or perhaps another format.

I don't want to get in the way, I am just as happy to wait patiently. :-)

[Josh Bond]

This is amazing, I am really excited at the prospect of what this will open up for us. Thank you!!

If it would be helpful, I should be able to combine all of the 120 PDF's into just one PDF, or convert the PDF's to Word (doc, or docx) format, or perhaps another format.

I don't want to get in the way, I am just as happy to wait patiently. :-)

I'm using a Galaxie Software/Biblesoft Macro that converts legacy Greek and Hebrew fonts (like Koine and Gideon) to unicode. I tried combining 10 files into one but the macro croaks, probably running out of memory and I can't easily edit the macro because they have it locked down.

So last night, I automated the extraction of all the text from the 120 PDFs. That went quickly. Then overnight, I ran the Galaxie macros on about 50 of the files (took 9 hours to do 50 files). Their code is slow but it works. Then on the first 50 files, I ran my formatting macro which removes the bad line breaks, massages the Greek/Hebrew, and inserts the ÷signs for the dictionary topic entry (required by ToolTip to distinguish a dictionary entry from the dictionary definition).

Finally comes the manual part. I have to tooltip the verses, fix as best I can nonconforming verses, do a proof scan to remove any remaining bad line breaks, fix the occasional formatting issue, and insert the images. Here the work is about the same, whether I work with 50 files or combine them and have 5 files. And that's the part I'm working on now.

[BigPaw]

I promise you... no more dumb questions, or suggestions... ...I wonder if one of my ancestors once said to Da Vinci, "Hey Da Vinci, wadda ya say, I've brought some crayons with me, can I help you draw that picture of Mona?"

[vdoctor]

where is matthew henry's complete commentary.. esowrd says you have it ????

[pfpeller]

where is matthew henry's complete commentary.. esowrd says you have it ????

Matthew Henry's complete commentary is for download from within the e sword program itself under download/commentaries. It is not currently at this site. It is only available from within e sword.