need module that will work with the compare tool in e-sword

I have noticed since the Hebrew bible is numbered differently than English versions:

On certain scriptures you cannot use compare to compare them (haha).

for example:
Psalms 36:11 in English
(KJV)  Let not the foot of pride come against me, and let not the hand of the wicked remove me.

is Psalms 36:12 in Hebrew.
(Hebrew OT+)  אלH408 תבואניH935 רגלH7272 גאוהH1346 וידH3027 רשׁעיםH7563 אלH408 תנדני׃H5110

Sorry the copy and paste for the Hebrew works funky -    

Is there any module of Hebrew built so that it aligns the scriptures? Or anyone have any genius solutions?


Blessings!
Chica
 

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

Psa 36:11  אַל־ H408 nay תְּ֭בוֹאֵנִי H935 come רֶ֣גֶל H7272 Let not the foot גַּאֲוָ֑ה H1346 of pride וְיַד־ H3027 against me and let not the hand רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים H7563 of the wicked אַל־ H408 nay תְּנִדֵֽנִי׃ H5110 remove 

This is how the text is on my screen.

You ask a Hebrew module with an interlinear for the Old Testament.

There are several:

"Hebrew Study Bible" modules: HSB, HBS2, HBS5

Hebrew Old Testament Interlinear iHOT+

ETCBC+ with KJV versification and King James reverse-interlinear (that use the root words) by Eliran Wong.

Eliran Wong made also a commentary module (with more phrasing details): BHSEk - Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (Enhanced; KJV versification).

KJVr

Psa 36:11  Let not ^אַל_1‎ the foot ^{רֶגֶל‎} of pride ^{גַּאֲוָה‎} come against ^{בֹּוא‎} me, and let not ^אַל_1‎ the hand ^יָד‎ of the wicked ^{רָשָׁע‎} remove ^{נוּד_1‎} me. 

HSB

Psa 36:11  אַל־ ^{H408 'al- nay} תְּ֭בוֹאֵנִי ^{H935 Te·vo·'e·ni come} רֶ֣גֶל ^{H7272 Re·gel Let not the foot} גַּאֲוָ֑ה ^{H1346 ga·'a·Vah; of pride} וְיַד־ ^{H3027 ve·yad- against me and let not the hand} רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים ^{H7563 re·sha·'Im, of the wicked} אַל־ ^{H408 'al- nay} תְּנִדֵֽנִי׃ ^{H5110 te·ni·De·ni. remove}

HBS2

Psa 36:11  אַל־ ^{H408 nay} תְּ֭בוֹאֵנִי ^{H935 come} רֶ֣גֶל ^{H7272 Let not the foot} גַּאֲוָ֑ה ^{H1346 of pride} וְיַד־ ^{H3027 against me and let not the hand} רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים ^{H7563 of the wicked} אַל־ ^{H408 nay} תְּנִדֵֽנִי׃ ^{H5110 remove}

HBS5

Psa 36:11  אַל־ ^{'al- nay} תְּ֭בוֹאֵנִי ^{Te·vo·'e·ni come} רֶ֣גֶל ^{Re·gel Let not the foot} גַּאֲוָ֑ה ^{ga·'a·Vah; of pride} וְיַד־ ^{ve·yad- against me and let not the hand} רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים ^{re·sha·'Im, of the wicked} אַל־ ^{'al- nay} תְּנִדֵֽנִי׃ ^{te·ni·De·ni. remove}

IHOT+

Psa 36:11  אל^{H408 Let not} תבואני^{H935 come against} רגל^{H7272 the foot} גאוה^{H1346 of pride} ויד^{H3027 the hand} רשׁעים^{H7563 of the wicked} אל^{H408 me, and let not} תנדני׃^{H5110 remove}

ETCBC+

Psa 36:11  [36:12] אַל ^R653|N102‎^|H408|not‎־תְּ֭בֹואֵנִי ^R172|N593‎^|H935|come‎ רֶ֣גֶל ^R437|N145‎^{|H7272H7890|foot}‎ גַּאֲוָ֑ה ^R3512|N144‎^{|H1346|uproar}‎ וְ ^R8|N91‎^|H9005|and‎יַד ^R251|N227‎^{|H3027H3197|hand}‎־רְ֝שָׁעִ֗ים ^R863|N169‎^{|H7563|guilty}‎ אַל ^R653|N102‎^|H408|not‎־תְּנִדֵֽנִי ^R291|N269‎^|H5110|waver‎׃

Hi, 

Thanks Silverhair,

Actually my problem is different, possibly I did not emphasize it quite clearly enough.

When in E-Sword compare mode --- for example  KJV Psalm 36 verse 1

(Hebrew OT+) Psalm 36:1 למנצחH5329 לעבד H5650 יהוהH3068 לדוד׃ H1732 
(KJV)  Psalm 36:1-a To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David the servant of the LORD.

KJV Psalm 36:1-b The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.

The Hebrew matching the second part of the KJV verse is actually Psalm 36:2 in Hebrew and puts it on the next page, and throws the whole compare function off.

Psalms 36:2
(Hebrew OT+)  נאםH5002 פשׁעH6588 לרשׁעH7563 בקרבH7130 לבי H3820 איןH369 פחדH6343 אלהיםH430 לנגדH5048 עיניו ׃ H5869

(KJV)  For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.

It took me awhile of trying to read Hebrew to figure this out .  I asked Rick Myers about it and he does not have a program solution to the problem so I'm thinking someone would have to write a module especially to work with the compare tool.  I thought maybe this wheel has already been invented?  

 Blessings to all!

Chica

I read it wrong: sorry.

Edited by Katoog, 26 May 2018 - 11:53 PM.

Hi Katoog, 

I was writing my response and did not see yours until I finished posting to Silverhair.  Thanks for the suggestions on those modules but I really want to be able to use the compare tool because I'm not only comparing the English with Hebrew but also with Spanish and Italian all at once.  So in this case, the ones you mentioned would not really work for me.

Blessings to all!

Chica

Katoog, 

Wow!  Another computer project way beyond my pay grade....  I might try it sometime,  Thanks!

Blessings to all!

Chica

Hi, 

 

Thanks Silverhair,

 

Actually my problem is different, possibly I did not emphasize it quite clearly enough.

 

When in E-Sword compare mode --- for example  KJV Psalm 36 verse 1

 

(Hebrew OT+) Psalm 36:1 למנצחH5329 לעבד H5650 יהוהH3068 לדוד׃ H1732 
(KJV)  Psalm 36:1-a To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David the servant of the LORD.

 

KJV Psalm 36:1-b The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.

 

The Hebrew matching the second part of the KJV verse is actually Psalm 36:2 in Hebrew and puts it on the next page, and throws the whole compare function off.

 

Psalms 36:2
(Hebrew OT+)  נאםH5002 פשׁעH6588 לרשׁעH7563 בקרבH7130 לבי H3820 איןH369 פחדH6343 אלהיםH430 לנגדH5048 עיניו ׃ H5869

(KJV)  For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.

 

It took me awhile of trying to read Hebrew to figure this out .  I asked Rick Myers about it and he does not have a program solution to the problem so I'm thinking someone would have to write a module especially to work with the compare tool.  I thought maybe this wheel has already been invented?  

 

 

 Blessings to all!

Chica

Use the KJV+ instead of the KJV for the Strong numbers.

Ok, I see the problem in Psa 36:1 it is  Hebrew OT and Hebrew OT+ from Rick Meyers that lacks the Hebrew titles in the book Psalms.

The Modules of Niobi and some editions of the KJV having the same problem.

למנצחH5329 To the chief Musician

is a part of the title.

The Old HOT+ and HOT modules for e-Sword 9 or 10 are better than the new modules (Hebrew OT and Hebrew OT+)

KJV+ (for e-Sword 11).

Psa 36:1  To the chief Musician,^H5329 A Psalm of David^H1732 the servant^H5650 of the LORD.^H3068 The transgression^H6588 of the wicked^H7563 saith^H5002 within^H7130 my heart,^H3820 that there is no^H369 fear^H6343 of God^H430 before^H5048 his eyes.^H5869 

Psa 36:2  For^H3588 he flattereth^{H2505 H413} himself in his own eyes,^H5869 until his iniquity^H5771 be found^H4672 to be hateful.^H8130

HOT+ (for e-Sword 9 or 10)

Psa 36:1 למנצח^H5329 לעבד^H5650 יהוה^H3068 לדוד׃^H1732 (36:2) נאם^H5002 פשׁע^H6588 לרשׁע^H7563 בקרב^H7130 לבי^H3820 אין^H369 פחד⁶³⁴³ אלהים⁴³⁰ לנגד^H5048 עיניו׃^H5869

Psa 36:2 (36:3) כי^H3588 החליק^H2505 אליו^H413 בעיניו^H5869 למצא^H4672 עונו^H5771 לשׂנא׃^H8130

The old HOT and old HOT+ from Rick Meyers are correct and having the Hebrew versification in blue.

e-Sword modules using with some exceptions usual the KJV 1769 standard of versification.

The titles in Psalms are counted as verse and the rest of the verse is counted as verse 2 in the Hebrew versification.

In my translation are the titles between ( ) and separated with a paragraph.

Edited by Katoog, 27 May 2018 - 03:25 AM.

If you are looking for Hebrew versification modules that not follow the KJV 1769 standard of versification in e-Sword.

The only that I know are some of the modules by Eliran Wong

The issue of versification differences between the Hebrew Tanakh and the standard versification as seen in the KJV and other English translation is relatively simple to overcome. Below is an example where both versifications are shown in the Roman Catholic Douay Rheims Bible.

 

Edited by APsit190, 27 May 2018 - 04:29 PM.