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Baptism does not Save

By Silverhair, 11 February 2018 · 1,509 views

Soteriology (Salvation)
Baptism does not Save

Baptism is not a requirement of salvation. For someone to teach that faith + water baptism is a requirement for salvation, is to teach another gospel than was taught by Paul. 1Co_15:1-4 Paul did not make water baptism a part of his gospel message and went so far as to say that Christ did not send him to baptize but only to spread the gospel message. 1Co_1:17 This would seem to be a major oversight if water baptism were indeed necessary as no one would have been saved.

If baptism were necessary for salvation then how do you deal with the paralytic man Mat_9:2, the penitent woman Luk_7:37-50, the tax collector Luk_18:13-14, and the thief on the cross Luk_23:39-43. Was Jesus just misleading them? Were they still lost in their sins since none were baptized?

We know that some will say “what about Acts 2:38 and Mar 16:16 they both say we have to be baptized. Well let us look at each in turn. Act_2:38 says "repent and be baptized"... For us to understand this text we must look at the context, what prompted the cry "Brethren, what shall we do?" Act 2:37. Peter's sermon at Pentecost Act 2:22-36 provides the answer. The Jewish people had cried out, “His blood be on us and on our children” Mat_27:25. The Jews had crucified Jesus and the guilt of Messiah's death was on the people of Israel.

After hearing the gospel message spoken by Peter some of the Jews realized what they had done. Through repentance they acknowledged their sin before God and placed their faith in Jesus Christ for forgiveness of their sins. But what about "repent and be baptized" you say. Does this not prove that baptism is necessary for salvation? Well no it does not. Scripture has numerous texts that say forgiveness of sins is by faith alone Joh_1:12; Joh_3:16; Joh_3:36; Joh_6:47; Rom_10:9; Eph_1:13; Eph_2:8-9 to list just a few. Peter also gave us some of the clearest verses in this regard later in Acts Act_5:31; Act_10:43; Act_13:38-39; Act_16:31; Act_26:18. The weight of scripture points to faith being the only requirement for salvation. If you still insist that baptism is a requirement then how do you account for the experience of the gentiles in Act 10:44-48.

Now what do we do with Mar 16:16. It is not the water of baptism that saves, but God’s grace given through faith in Christ. Jesus’ answer to the criminal on the cross shows us it is possible to be saved without being baptized Luk_23:43. Baptism was and is not a condition for salvation, but it is an important step of obedience for a believing disciple Act_8:36-38; Act_10:47-48. Baptism was not a step that a believer took lightly. Then as now it may cost you family, friends, and even your job.

The following quote presents a good picture of Baptism:

Baptism is like a wedding ring. We put on a wedding ring as a symbol of our commitment and devotion. In the same way baptism is a picture of devotion and commitment to Christ. A wedding ring reminds us and tells others that we belong to someone special. In the same way, baptism reminds us and others that we are devoted to Christ and belong to Him. by John Shore


Got a PM from APsit190 re baptism. As he rightly pointed out baptism is to discipleship. With his permission I added his words here.


APsit190

I agree with you, and with that said, I'll share with you is what actually does make baptism important.

With regard to Salvation, baptism happens as a result of it. In the good ol' days of the NT Church, Christians got save and baptized in one hit. But that didn't and doesn't make it as baptism important to salvation. What does make baptism important too, is actually to discipleship. In other words, to be a disciple of Jesus, one does need to be baptized, simply because baptism is the mark of a disciple. If you remember in the "great commission," the command was "to make disciples," and then from there to "baptize them...." That is, to baptize the disciples.

I think that where the arguments comes in with regard to what you have put up in your Blog, is that Baptism, by default, Salvation being the default setting where Baptism has been placed, when in reality the default should have been set with being a Disciple. And I think there is a distinction between being saved, and being a disciple despite there being a correlation between the two.

I you wish, you can copy and paste this message to your blog page.

Again, thanks for you message. Appreciate what you said.

Blessings,
Stephen (Php 1:21)




When it actually comes to this kind of argument, in reality its a nothing burger because when we make salvation to be either side of the argument, we distract ourselves from what the purpose of baptism actually is. In other words, we actually miss the point by not looking at or focusing on what the point/the purpose is.

 

That said, I do like the wedding ring bit. That really has a real ring to it. (Pun intended.)

 

Blessings,

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If baptism is not important or essential to one's salvation then please explain Acts 2:38 and Acts 22:16. On the day of Pentecost(Acts 2) they cried out, "What MUST WE DO TO BE SAVED?" The question asks the imperative-- What is the command? Obviously those 3,000 who were baptized into Christ (Rom 6:1-6) recognized the importance of the command when they asked, "What MUST WE do?" REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION(forgiveness) of sin... How can anyone deny the validity of this command, where REPENTANCE and BAPTISM are joined together by that simple conjunction "AND"? Furthermore, in Acts 22:16 Saul was commanded to "Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name (authority) of the Lord." Notice if you will that in that context, Saul was not able to call on the name of the Lord, until he obeyed what Ananias commanded him to do, and that was, ARISE AND BE BAPTIZED. Then he was able to call on the name of the Lord. It is obvious from Saul's prayer and supplication that he had repented and was sorry for the sins he had committed against Christ, but there was one thing he needed to do. Arise and be baptized. Then his sight was restored and he was,able to see the light of salvation. You also ignore in your Calvinistic comments Mark 16:15-16, as well as 1 Peter 3:20-21. True, water does not save, but what we are talking about here is the importance of the Lord's command! Remember the story of Naaman. When was he cleansed?

If baptism is not important or essential to one's salvation then please explain Acts 2:38 and Acts 22:16.

 

True, water does not save, but what we are talking about here is the importance of the Lord's command!

 

You have me confused here. First you indicate that baptism is essential for salvation. Then you say later that water does not save.

 

Well as my blog said "Baptism does not Save" and it does not, as I stated in the blog and also gave verses showing that salvation is by Faith only not Faith plus.

 

So as I said confused here, what is the problem. Did I say that we should not be baptized. NO. That was not part of the blog. My bad. To be clearer I should have added that Baptism is the outward sign of an inward reality. We are baptized because we are saved not so that we can be saved.

 

As to my being a Calvinist. Must admit that is the first time anyone has put that label on me. To clarify I am not now nor ever have been a Calvinist and I should add nor ever could be.

Yes. Water does not save, buy obedience does. The New Testament does say something about obeying from the heart that form of doctrine which was once and for all, delivered into the saints. Looking at just the book of Acts and all the cases of conversion recorded therein, it shouldn't be hard to figure out that baptism is part of that doctrine. Perhaps it would be best to phrase it saying that washing away the filth of the flesh is not part of that doctrine, but the command to be baptized is. Also, I didn't call you a Calvinist, but that you had made Calvinist comments. Most churches today, unfortunately have strayed so far from the truth that Calvinism pretty much has free reign. It certainly wasn't the kind of doctrine that was espoused by the early church or in the New Testament. Your comments once again are ignoring the statement by the apostle Peter in Acts 2.

With all respect Sir, in your first sentence it is clear you completely miss the point, yet you do state later that “WATER BAPTISM IS AN IMPORTANT STEP OF OBEDIENCE” for the believer. Now with that statement in mind is my question. If you are DISOBEDIENT to what Christ clearly taught and commanded his Disciples as to what we must do to be Saved, do you believe you still receive Salvation? Now we know that we are saved by Grace, I thank God for His Mercy. It is in knowing that we must also be Obedient to his Word.

John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

This is not a multiple choice salvation plan. Nor is this another Gospel than that taught by Paul or any other of the Apostles.

 

WATER BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF JESUS is the burial of a man/woman who has died to sin by Repentance

Repentance and Water Baptism always went hand in hand in the the book of Acts. Every New Believer that Repented was Water Baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins subsequent to ones Repentance. It is an act/deed done by Faith in Obedience to Christ's command. "THAT MAKES IT ESSENTIAL IF IT WAS CHRIST COMMANDED".

THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST "The Promise" is the Resurrection of a man/woman who has died to sin and been filled/indwelt with the Spirit of Jesus Christ. "ALSO IS CLEARLY ESSENTIAL."

 

Death, Burial and Resurrection is the complete work of the New Birth.

"ALL ARE ESSENTIAL"

Death is accomplished by Repentance.

Burial is accomplished by Water Baptism In Jesus Name.

Resurrection is accomplished by receiving the Holy Ghost.

 

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the SPIRIT, and the WATER, and the BLOOD: and these three agree in one." 1John 5:8

 

The Blood of Jesus, the Baptism of WATER and the Gift of the HOLY GHOST.

 

The Bible is God's book to man, all of it, just as it is. It is not for man to pick and choose the verses he /she wants to adhere too, nor take what is clearly commanded from the Mighty God Himself and try to say it is not essential to Salvation.

We must be Obedient to His Word.

 

God Bless

 True, water does not save, but what we are talking about here is the importance of the Lord's command! Remember the story of Naaman. When was he cleansed?

Amen

As I have said before but will say again. If you add anything to faith in Jesus Christ as the means of salvation you are putting forth a works salvation. Do I believe that we should be baptized well since I am a baptist from a long of baptists that should give you my answer.

 

We are saved by faith period. Baptism is the outward sight of the inward reality. CWSS you say we cannot disregard verses that we do not like. I agree, which means we also have to look at the paralytic man Mat_9:2, the penitent woman Luk_7:37-50, the tax collector Luk_18:13-14, and the thief on the cross Luk_23:39-43. Was Jesus just misleading them? Were they still lost in their sins since none were baptized?

 

Plus look at the number of verses that tell us that salvation is by faith with no mention of baptism. Are we to be baptized YES but it has no part in our salvation.

 

Really I do not understand why this is twisting you up? We are saved because of our faith in Jesus, we show that we have faith in Jesus through baptism.

 

The ceremony is an outward sign of what has taken place spiritually; we have been baptized into Christ's death. As we go under the water, we acknowledge that we have been buried with Him. As we come up out of the water, we show that we have risen with Him and want to walk in newness of life.

We are saved by faith period. Baptism is the outward sight of the inward reality. CWSS you say we cannot disregard verses that we do not like. I agree, which means we also have to look at the paralytic man Mat_9:2, the penitent woman Luk_7:37-50, the tax collector Luk_18:13-14, and the thief on the cross Luk_23:39-43. Was Jesus just misleading them? Were they still lost in their sins since none were baptized?

 

What makes you think they didn't get Baptized?

Plus look at the number of verses that tell us that salvation is by faith with no mention of baptism. Are we to be baptized YES but it has no part in our salvation.

Our walk IS by Faith. All the Epistles and Letters were wrote to the Church and for the Church on how Christians must live etc. and continue to grow by Faith. If the Church then in time of Acts was Born Again Believers who by command Repented and was Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and had received the gift of the Holy Ghost, Why would this be any different today? Answer=  Acts 2:38 is the Salvation Plan laid out in its simplicity (Repent, be Baptized, Receive Gods Spirit) This is done in Faith Believing.

 

God Bless

CWSS you keep saying that in order to be saved you MUST be baptized. You have made baptism a condition of salvation, it is not. Faith in Jesus is the only condition.

 

You always point to Acts 2:38 which is at best, because you are saved show it by being baptized. But you fail to look at Acts 10:47

 

"Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?"  Notice these people have already been saved, they have received the Holy Spirit. This verse does not leave any doubt as to salvation is by faith alone. Baptism is the public conformation of the inward reality

 

CWSS to quote you "What makes you think they didn't get Baptized?"  Really hard for the thief on the cross to do that. How many times do I have to say that "We are saved because of our faith in Jesus, we show that we have faith in Jesus through baptism."

 

Baptism does not save you, Faith does. Jesus made that very clear in Luk 7:50 Then He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you. Go in peace." notice He did not tell her now to finish the process your salvation you have to baptized. Also see Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith,

 

You are teaching another gospel if you make anything other than faith a requirement of salvation.

There are three possibilities:

(1)Baptism is necessary for Salvation. (Baptismal regeneration).

(2)Baptism can be necessary for Salvation by some BUT it is still a command for all.

(3)Baptism in not necessary for Salvation BUT it is still a command for all.

 

In all cases is it the duty for Christians to support Baptism.

And saying "Well as my blog said "Baptism does not Save" and it does not, as I stated in the blog and also gave verses showing that salvation is by Faith only not Faith plus" sounds not faithful.

Who said that Baptism is not a part of Faith? If God COUNTS Baptism "by some" (2) or "for all" (3) as FAITH are you in trouble.

Rom 1:5 and Rom 16:26 have "the obedience of faith" so obedience is a part of Faith.

This is like saying to OUR Master: I do ONLY what I see as "Faith" ONLY to obtain Salvation.

The command is simple:

Act 2:38 ... "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

 

So OUR Master want that you Repent and be baptized:

Do you think that He likes the "only Faith" attitude without being fruitful as unprofitable servants?

"Faith" is not just "an opinion" but a "Way of life" Christians following the "Way" Joh 14:1-15 so supporting Baptism is a part of Faith.

I remind you that Jesus is also Baptized while He was without sin and is saved for sure. So follow His example instead of making a topic about Baptismal regeneration.

 

Joh 14:15 If ye love Me, keep My Commandments.

1Jn 2:4 He who saying, I have known Him, and keeping not His Commandments, is a liar, and the Truth is not in him.

 

 

I made the Topic "Is it the duty for Christians to support believer's Baptism?"

Because the majority of Christianity is NOT Baptized on a valid way. I don't even know any Baptist in my country!

And a Baptist like you should not make a topic that can be used to reject Baptism but rather also baptize people from other denominations without fear if they will. And reject the leadership of any who is against believer's Baptism.

http://www.biblesupp...ievers-baptism/

 

And there is connection between "save" and "baptism". So (3) is questionable.

 

Mar 16:16 He who having believed and having been baptized shall be saved;
but he who having disbelieved shall be condemned.

 

1Pe 3:20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the endurance of God waited in the days of Noah,
while the ark was being prepared, in which few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. Gen 7:13 .

1Pe 3:21 Which as an antitype, baptism, does also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,
but the demand of a good conscience towards GOD), by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

 

And even if there is no connection (3) is Baptism still used for the "remission of sins"(clean away sins with water to have a spotless record like the blood of the Lamb or Christ).

And "the gift of the Holy Spirit"(by blessing)

And as ritual for dead(under water) and rebirth(above the water). But who or when "born again" happens is for another topic but it is sure that Baptism is connected with "born again" in the Resurrection.

CWSS you keep saying that in order to be saved you MUST be baptized. You have made baptism a condition of salvation, it is not. Faith in Jesus is the only condition.

 

You always point to Acts 2:38 which is at best, because you are saved show it by being baptized. But you fail to look at Acts 10:47

 

"Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?"  Notice these people have already been saved, they have received the Holy Spirit. This verse does not leave any doubt as to salvation is by faith alone. Baptism is the public conformation of the inward reality

 

CWSS to quote you "What makes you think they didn't get Baptized?"  Really hard for the thief on the cross to do that. How many times do I have to say that "We are saved because of our faith in Jesus, we show that we have faith in Jesus through baptism."

 

Baptism does not save you, Faith does. Jesus made that very clear in Luk 7:50 Then He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you. Go in peace." notice He did not tell her now to finish the process your salvation you have to baptized. Also see Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith,

 

So have "received the Holy Spirit" is the same as "Once Saved Always Saved" and "speak in tongues" the same as faith?

You could say that faith is needed but by the same logic is faith needed for Believer's Baptism.

What about the many people with faith that not "speak in tongues" have they not saving faith?

 

1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healings? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

 

So speaking in tongues is NOT necessary for Salvation.

 

And you ignore that Peter commanded them to be baptized in the Name of the LORD in the next verse. (Acts 10:48).

The point is that God can make exceptions in the order: calling, Spirit follow by believer's Baptism instead of calling, believer's Baptism follow by Spirit.

 

And Believer's Baptism is rather an act of obedience.

If you read the context are it the "believers of circumcision" who REFUSED to baptized the Gentiles;  (Like the Baptists who REFUSED to baptize other denominations)

but God have the Gentiles the gift of the Holy Spirit and Peter commanded the the "believers of circumcision" to DO THEIR JOB by baptize the Gentiles in the Name of the LORD.

 

Act 10:44
While Peter is yet speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them who heard the word.

Act 10:45 And they (the believers of circumcision), were astonished, as many as came with Peter,
because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Act 10:46 For they heard them speak in tongues and magnifying God. Then answered Peter,

Act 10:47 can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized, who received the Holy Spirit as well as we?

Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the Name of the LORD. Then they requested him to tarry some days.

 

So you can't use Act 10:47 as evidence against Baptism for Salvation. Because it is WRONG to forbid water to those who are willing to be Baptized for denomination reasons.

 

For the moment do I support: (2)Baptism can be necessary for Salvation by some BUT it is still a command for all.

There are three possibilities:

(1)Baptism is necessary for Salvation. (Baptismal regeneration).

(2)Baptism can be necessary for Salvation by some BUT it is still a command for all.

(3)Baptism in not necessary for Salvation BUT it is still a command for all.

 

In all cases is it the duty for Christians to support Baptism.

And saying "Well as my blog said "Baptism does not Save" and it does not, as I stated in the blog and also gave verses showing that salvation is by Faith only not Faith plus" sounds not faithful.

 

Just so you know I have moved this blog entry over to the Message Board it can be followed there.

http://www.biblesupp...-does-not-save/

 

Silverhair

 

 

 

I agree that all Christians should support baptism but, and this is important, baptism is not what saves.

As I said in my Blog and have copied here:

If baptism were necessary for salvation then how do you deal with the paralytic man Mat_9:2, the penitent woman Luk_7:37-50, the tax collector Luk_18:13-14, and the thief on the cross Luk_23:39-43. Was Jesus just misleading them? Were they still lost in their sins since none were baptized?

 

Katoog there is a big difference between Baptism being necessary for saving you and following a command to be Baptized because you were saved. To be clear, I am a Baptist from a long line of Baptists and have a number of ministers in that line. I have been taught Baptist theology all my life. Never in my life have I been taught that in order to be saved it was faith + baptism, it was always because of your faith you are saved, now you are commanded to make a public profession of that saving faith through baptism. Anytime you add anything to Faith as the means of salvation you are adding works.

 

Baptism is what you do because you are saved. It is not what saves. Katoog there are 4 possibilities: 4) Baptism is not necessary for salvation BUT it is still a command for all believers.

 

Do we see a connection between remission of sins and indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

 

Act 10:43 To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."

Act 10:47 "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?"

 

Note two things here

1] Faith brings remission of sins

2] they received the Holy Spirit {were saved} then they were baptized

 

Just a point here, you use Mar 16:16 by way of showing that to be saved you have to believe and be baptized. But if you look at the whole verse you will see that it shows the opposite.

Mar 16:16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

 

Notice that the one: who believes = saved, who does not believe = condemned.

What this tells us is that even if you make a public profession of faith, if you do not truly believe you will be condemned.

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

And what is the will of the Father

Joh 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

So have "received the Holy Spirit" is the same as "Once Saved Always Saved" and "speak in tongues" the same as faith?

You could say that faith is needed but by the same logic is faith needed for Believer's Baptism.

What about the many people with faith that not "speak in tongues" have they not saving faith?

 

 

Just so you know I have moved this blog entry over to the Message Board it can be followed there.

http://www.biblesupp...-does-not-save/

 

 

Silverhair

 

 

Katoog said:

So have "received the Holy Spirit" is the same as "Once Saved Always Saved" and "speak in tongues" the same as faith?

Silverhair:

How you can equate receiving the Holy Spirit with OSAS or speaking in tongues as being the same as faith is a mystery to me. You may believe those things I do not.

 

Katoog said:

You could say that faith is needed but by the same logic is faith needed for Believer's Baptism.

Silverhair:

You second comment is strange, why would someone go through Baptism if they did not have faith in Jesus. And as you called it “Believers Baptism” that would by it’s name imply that the person has faith in Jesus.

 

Katoog said:

What about the many people with faith that not "speak in tongues" have they not saving faith?

1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healings? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

So speaking in tongues is NOT necessary for Salvation

 

Silverhair:

Just because a person has faith in Jesus does not mean they have to speak in tongues, where would you get a silly idea like that.

 

 

How did you get this from what I said? That is a real stretch. But to be very clear on this:

 

1] Faith in Jesus Christ is the only requirement for salvation

2] Baptism does not save you

3] Being Baptized is what you do because you believe/are saved, not so that you are saved

 

 

Katoog said:

And you ignore that Peter commanded them to be baptized in the Name of the LORD in the next verse. (Acts 10:48).

The point is that God can make exceptions in the order: calling, Spirit follow by believer's Baptism instead of calling, believer's Baptism follow by Spirit.

Silverhair:

Glad you said that, please note they were saved then they were baptized. And yes God could make exceptions to whatever He wishes. But the paucity of verses that are used to justify adding baptism to faith as the means of salvation would point to those being the exceptions not the rule.

 

Scripture has numerous texts that say forgiveness of sins is by faith alone Joh_1:12; Joh_3:16; Joh_3:36; Joh_6:47; Rom_10:9; Eph_1:13; Eph_2:8-9 to list just a few. Peter also gave us some of the clearest verses in this regard later in Acts Act_5:31; Act_10:43; Act_13:38-39; Act_16:31; Act_26:18. The weight of scripture points to faith being the only requirement for salvation. Although you may disagree and still insist that baptism is a requirement for salvation Act 10:44-48 would prove you wrong

 

Katoog said:

(Like the Baptists who REFUSED to baptize other denominations) and So you can't use Act 10:47 as evidence against Baptism for Salvation. Because it is WRONG to forbid water to those who are willing to be Baptized for denomination reasons.

 

Silverhair:

If these other denominations, you speak of, thought that Baptism for Salvation was right and Baptists and the bible say Salvation is by faith in Jesus not faith plus baptism as you are saying. My question is why would you expect Baptists to baptize them? What you are promoting is another gospel, another way to be saved.

 

If baptism were necessary for salvation then how do you deal with the paralytic man Mat_9:2, the penitent woman Luk_7:37-50, the tax collector Luk_18:13-14, and the thief on the cross Luk_23:39-43. Was Jesus just misleading them? Were they still lost in their sins since none were baptized? That some of them may have been baptized later is not the point. Their sins were forgiven at that time when Jesus told them.

Concerning the thief on the cross.  At that point in time, Jesus had not died on the cross for the sins of the world.  Being the Lord of the Sabbath and the Last Testator, He had all authority.  If you consider that fact that when Jesus had His conversation with the thief on the Cross the Old Law was still in effect.  The thief was not subject to the Gospel Call, because the Gospel (Good News) was not realized yet and the Day of Pentecost (1st Gospel Sermon) had not occurred.  Therefore, the thief was did not have to be baptized and/or obey the Gospel.  The same could be said concerning the Penitent woman and the Tax Collector.  While Jesus was still alive, the Gospel was not in effect.  The Old Law was.  The New Testament didn't even exist yet.  How could they be subject to the simple command in Acts 2:38 if Christ hadn't died for their sins yet???

You don't read about the "Sinner's Prayer" in the New Testament, but you sure read a lot about baptism, especially the following reasons why one should be Baptized.....

 

1. BECAUSE JESUS COMMANDED IT. He commanded his disciples to baptize those whom they had taught (Matt 28:19). The implication is that those who have been taught the gospel should willingly submit to baptism.

2. BECAUSE JESUS MODELED IT. Though sinless he walked seventy miles to be baptized by John in the river Jordan in order to fulfill all righteousness (Matthew 3:13-15). If it was the right thing for him to do, how much more is it vital for sinners such as we all are.

3. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS COUPLED WITH FAITH AND LINKED TO SALVATION IN THE TEACHIN'G OF JESUS. "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved" (Mark 16: 16).

4. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS LINKED WITH REPENTANCE AND THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS IN THE TEACHING OF THE APOSTLES. "Repent and be baptized for the remission (forgiveness) of sins. . ." (Acts 2:38).

5. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS ESSENTIAL TO RECEIVING THE "GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT" (Acts 2:38). See also Acts 19:3-5.

6. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM OUR SINS ARE WASHED AWAY (Acts 22:16), not by the water, but by the blood of Jesus.

7. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD. "Arise and be baptized, calling on the name of the Lord" Acts 22:16). Baptism is like an action prayer. In this act we call upon God to fulfill all the promises which he has made to us through Christ. Such calling upon the Lord is essential to our salvation.

8. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE ARE BROUGHT INTO SPIRITUAL CONTACT WITH THE BLOOD OF JESUS. We are "baptized into his death" where his precious blood was shed (Romans 6:3).

9. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE ACT OUT THE BUR1AL OF JESUS (Romans 6:4). We are "buried with him."

10. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE ACT OUT THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS (Romans 6:4). We are raised with him. 2

11. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE MARK THE FORMAL BEGINNING OF A NEW LIFE IN CHRIST (Romans 6:4). After our baptism we walk in "newness of life."

12. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE COME “INTO JESUS CHRIST" where there is salvation and blessing (Romans 6:3; Galatians 3:27).

13. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE DEMONSTRATE OUR HOPE IN THE RESURRECTION OF THE RIGHTEOUS (Romans 6:5).

14. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE "PUT ON CHRIST" (Galatians 3:27). As a garment provides protection from the elements, so Christ provides spiritual protection to those who wear him. As a uniform identities a soldier as the member of a particular army, so the one who puts on Christ testifies to the world of his spiritual allegiance.

15. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE COMPLETE THE PROCESS OF THE NEW BIRTH which began when the Holy Spirit-inspired word was implanted in our hearts (John 3:5).

16. BECAUSE BEING BORN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT IS ESSENTIAL to entering Christ's kingdom of salvation. "Except a man be born of the water and the Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven" (John 3:5).

17. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE EXPERIENCE THE CIRCUMCISION OF CHRIST in which the sins of the flesh are removed in the sight of God (Colossians 2: 11-12).

18. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM WE ARE "RAISED WITH HIM" through faith in the operation of God, i.e., baptism demonstrates in the physical realm our faith about what God is doing in the spiritual realm When we are baptized (Colossians 2: 12).

19. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS A NECESSARY PREREQUISITE TO BE COUNTED AMONG THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST. "Those who received his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day" (Acts 2:41).

20. BECAUSE EVEN HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR OBEDIENCE TO CHRIST IN WATER BAPTISM. After Cornelius and his household were baptized in the Holy Spirit, Peter "ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" (Acts 10:48).

21. BECAUSE EVEN THE BAPTISM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR BAPTISM (Acts 19:3). Merely being immersed is not baptism!

22. BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE IN THE FIRST CENTURY BELIEVED THE GOSPEL THEY WERE BAPTIZED IMMEDIATELY (Acts 8:36; 19:5). The action must have been considered very important. 3

23. BECAUSE BAPTISM WAS A PROMINENT PART OF THE PREACHING ABOUT JESUS. Philip preached "Jesus" to the Ethiopian. As part of his message he must have spoken of the importance of baptism. At the first opportunity the Ethiopian asked "See, here is water. What would hinder me from being baptized" (Acts 8:35-36).

24. BECAUSE IF ONE BELIEVES THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD, THERE IS NOTHING TO HINDER HIS BAPTISM (Acts 8:36-37). This means that those incapable of believing in Jesus are not proper candidates for baptism. While teaching about the significance of baptism is important, one need not know all there is to know on the subject because he submits to the Lord in this act

25. BECAUSE BAPTISM LEADS TO A REALIZATION THAT ONE HAS OBEYED THE LORD, HENCE TO JOY (Acts 8:39). The newly baptized Ethiopian "went on his way rejoicing."

26. BECAUSE BAPTISM, BEING THE FINAL ACT OF A SERIES OF INITIAL RESPONSES TO THE GOSPEL, SAVES US. The Apostle Peter declared "baptism now saves us" (1 Peter 3:21).

27. BECAUSE IN BAPTISM ONE IS FOLLOWING THE PROMPTING OF A GOOD CONSCIENCE. It is evidence that one is sincerely trying to do exactly what the Lord commanded (1 Peter 3:21).

28. BECAUSE WE ARE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME (BY THE AUTHORITY) OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT (Mathew 28:19). Baptism is the only act commanded by all three persons of the Godhead.

29. BAPTISM IS THE NATURAL RESULT OF HAVING BELIEVED THE PREACHING OF THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. "When they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized..." (Acts 8: 12). .

30. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS REQUIRED OF ALL BELIEVERS REGARDLESS OF SEX OR RACE OR ECONOMIC STATUS. ". .. they were baptized, both men and women" (Acts 8:12). "We were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free" (1 Corinthians 12:13).

31. BECAUSE WE ARE BAPTIZED IN (OR INTO) THE NAME OF THE LORD AND KING JESUS (Acts 8: 16). Jesus is Lord, and baptism is the pledge of our loyalty to our new King.

32. BECAUSE MIRACULOUS HEALING IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR OBEDIENCE IN BAPTISM (Acts 9:18). Miraculous events do not prove that our sins have been forgiven. God's gracious actions should make one even more anxious to obey this simple command. 4

33. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS THE NATURAL RESPONSE OF A HEART OPENED BY THE LORD (Acts 16: 14-15). Through the gospel the Lord opened Lydia's heart to respond to Paul's message. She responded by being baptized.

34. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS COUPLED WITH FAITH IN THE REPORTS OF SALVATION IN THE BOOK OF ACTS. "Many of the Corinthians heard him [Paul], believed, and were baptized" (Acts 18:8).

35. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS THE ANTETYPE OF THE CROSSING OF THE RED SEA (1 Corinthians 10:2). Just as Israel left the bondage of Egypt by passing through the sea, so we also leave the bondage of sin to enter into a new relationship with God in baptism.

36. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS THE ANTETYPE OF THE WATERS OF NOAH'S FLOOD (1 Peter 3:20-21). Just as the waters removed Noah from a sinful world, so in baptism we pass from a sinful state to a forgiven state.

37. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS THE RESULT OF THE WORK OF THE SPIRIT ON THE HEART AND MIND THROUGH THE WORD. "We were all baptized by one Spirit into one body" (1 Corinthians 12:13). 38. BECAUSE THERE IS ONE BAPTISM which has been required since the first century and shall be required until the Lord returns. "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5). 39. BECAUSE BEFORE WE DRAW NEAR IN OUR SERVICE AS PRIESTS TO GOD, OUR BODIES MUST BE WASHED AS WELL AS HEARTS SPRINKLED. "let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water" (Hebrews 10:22). The text suggests that the sprinkling of the heart for cleansing and the washing of the body take place simultaneously. 40. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS ONE OF THREE CONTEMPORARY WITNESSES TO THE DEITY OF CHRIST. "For there are three who bear witness, the Spirit, and the water and the blood; and the three agree in one" (I John 5:8). For nearly twenty centuries the act of baptism has been picturing the central fact of redemption, viz., the burial and resurrection of Christ. The Spirit witnesses through the Word. The Lord's Supper bears testimony to the blood.

41. BECAUSE BAPTISM IS THE GRACIOUS PROVISION OF A GRACIOUS GOD. "He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy, he saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5). The text suggests that the renewal by the Holy Spirit follows the washing of rebirth (baptism). 5

 

In view of these forty-one biblical reasons, why not decide this very hour to "ARISE AND BE BAPTIZED WASHING A WAY YOUR SINS, CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD" (Acts 22:16).

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Concerning the thief on the cross.  At that point in time, Jesus had not died on the cross for the sins of the world.  Being the Lord of the Sabbath and the Last Testator, He had all authority.  If you consider that fact that when Jesus had His conversation with the thief on the Cross the Old Law was still in effect.  The thief was not subject to the Gospel Call, because the Gospel (Good News) was not realized yet and the Day of Pentecost (1st Gospel Sermon) had not occurred.  Therefore, the thief was did not have to be baptized and/or obey the Gospel.  The same could be said concerning the Penitent woman and the Tax Collector.  While Jesus was still alive, the Gospel was not in effect.  The Old Law was.  The New Testament didn't even exist yet.  How could they be subject to the simple command in Acts 2:38 if Christ hadn't died for their sins yet???

1Pe 3:19  ¶ in which he went and made a proclamation to those imprisoned spirits 
1Pe 3:20  who disobeyed long ago in the days of Noah, when God waited patiently while the ark was being built. In it a few, that is, eight persons, were saved by water. 
1Pe 3:21  Baptism, which is symbolized by that water, now saves you also, not by removing dirt from the body, but by asking God for a clear [Lit. clean] conscience based on the resurrection of Jesus, the Messiah, [Or Christ] 
1Pe 3:22  who has gone to heaven and is at the right hand of God, where angels, authorities, and powers have been made subject to him.

 

Why do we argue about that which can all read? The connection of baptism with salvation is clear.  



 

1Pe 3:19  ¶ in which he went and made a proclamation to those imprisoned spirits 
1Pe 3:20  who disobeyed long ago in the days of Noah, when God waited patiently while the ark was being built. In it a few, that is, eight persons, were saved by water. 
1Pe 3:21  Baptism, which is symbolized by that water, now saves you also, not by removing dirt from the body, but by asking God for a clear [Lit. clean] conscience based on the resurrection of Jesus, the Messiah, [Or Christ] 
1Pe 3:22  who has gone to heaven and is at the right hand of God, where angels, authorities, and powers have been made subject to him.

 

Why do we argue about that which can all read? The connection of baptism with salvation is clear.  

 

 

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